What would prevent YOU from taking an Olympic Style steroid test?

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  • AKATheMack
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    #101
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Allowing it for this fight doesn't automatically make it the rule. You think every fighter's going to have to pay $10 mil if they go over the limit? And why are you confusing the issue? The issue with the Pacquiao camp is them trying to dictate to that agency what they already agreed to. This fight will happen - all of this Malinaggi talk is posturing. But it'll be a shame if these tests are compromised at a time when boxing can make a statement. Read that NY Times article and ask yourself where you stand.
    I can tell you where I stand. I stand that the sport of boxing is bigger than any individual fighter. The sport of boxing already lacks an overseeing body and if we allow fighters to dictate what tests other fighters take or at what weight you come in at for a fight the sports sanctioning bodies become even more of a joke than they already are.

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    • Thawisejester
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      #102
      You shouldve put HGH in your system is worth NOT taking the test

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      • Left Hook Tua
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        #103
        Originally posted by Ray`
        Yea, Usain bolt talked about it in his interview when he came over to the UK..Chritine ohugur (Name) missed 3 test because of this and got ban for 2 years but reduce on appeal.

        I dont care for the "They have never done this" before in boxing, there is a start for everything and i hope pac takes the test during camp and shut everyone up, Him saying no just add more fuel to the fire.
        i wouldn't even care if the nsac or orgs ordered it.

        it just seems extreme to target one person personally and for one fight.

        i wouldn't have a problem if they enacted this type tests for all fighters and all fights.

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        • IMDAZED
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          #104
          Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
          again......

          don't argue points against me that i'm not even arguing.

          i said 20 tests because that's the upper limit amount of tests that he might have to take.

          i don't even know why you're arguing this.

          because i said 20 tests instead of saying 6 blood tests and 14 urine tests?

          if i say 20 blood tests which is completely wrong then say something.
          Tua, you've spent the last two days whining about "OMG, Manny has to take 20 tests, that's unheard of!" Then when pressed as to what these tests were, you stated most of which were urine and that "urine wasn't the issue." So then what is it? Are you whining about five blood tests? Why are you whining at all?

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          • Ray*
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            #105
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
            principle is all well and good but manny's occupation is not based on principle. his job is to fight and make the most money he can during his fighting career.

            i'm not in his position so i wouldn't know but for me screw principles. $40 mil. is $40 mil.

            even if he is doping (and i don't think he is and certainly hope he's not) , hell stop doping for one damn fight. make that cheddar.

            that's me though.



            plus principles don't mean **** in the public arena.

            manny is a public figure and public opinion (right or wrong) is against him on this one.

            suck it up. swallow your pride and just give in. you lost this one. if team pacquiao was smart they wouldn't have fought this one in the first place.

            you don't fight battles you can't win.


            Thank you tua, Thats a reasonable post...I expect a lot better from some posters on here who i consider unbiase/good pac fan but i have been disappointed with what i have seen so far.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #106
              Originally posted by AKATheMack
              I can tell you where I stand. I stand that the sport of boxing is bigger than any individual fighter. The sport of boxing already lacks an overseeing body and if we allow fighters to dictate what tests other fighters take or at what weight you come in at for a fight the sports sanctioning bodies become even more of a joke than they already are.
              The sanctioning bodies have nothing to do with this. So I'm not sure what you're talking about. No one is allowing an individual to do anything; Floyd didn't pull testing methods out of his a**. This is something that was agreed upon by the NSAC, the anti-doping agency and many others we probably don't know about--including the promoters. If you stand for the sport, then you would support the use of Olympic-type testing and the program they've outlined for both fighters. Not whining about who suggested a good idea.

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              • jrosales13
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                #107
                Originally posted by Ray`
                It has alot to do with the post i was replying to. I have looked at both side of the argument and my opinion have change from "WTF" are they accusing Manny for to "This guy has something to hide".
                What is he doing wrong? What infractions is breaking? I understand if the NSAC already had this test in place. And, Pac said no. Then ok I get where you guys are coming from. But, NSAC doesn't have it and really that is the only people Pac has to answer to. And, what makes it worse is that he is willing to do the blood test. When he does not have to do it at all. If he had something to hide he will not be accepting that.


                Again no track star can come out and say hey hey hey since I going up against Usain Bolt. I want this new and improve drug testing. Tell Olympics will laugh at any track star who did that and basically tell them to GTFO.

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                • AKATheMack
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  The sanctioning bodies have nothing to do with this. So I'm not sure what you're talking about. No one is allowing an individual to do anything; Floyd didn't pull testing methods out of his a**. This is something that was agreed upon by the NSAC, the anti-doping agency and many others we probably don't know about--including the promoters. If you stand for the sport, then you would support the use of Olympic-type testing and the program they've outlined for both fighters. Not whining about who suggested a good idea.
                  I was referring to the Commissions not the sanctioning bodies I apologize. Like I said if its a good idea then it should become the rule immediately. I agree it should be used, but if its only going to be used for this fight to target a certain individual then I am most certainly against it. And my so-called whining is because I am a fan of the sport and I believe Mayweather has no right to threaten to pull out of a great fight because of special conditions he wants put in place.

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                  • MindBat
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                    #109
                    If the poll results are any indication, most agree on one thing:

                    We would all fail the test.

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by AKATheMack
                      I was referring to the Commissions not the sanctioning bodies I apologize. Like I said if its a good idea then it should become the rule immediately. I agree it should be used, but if its only going to be used for this fight to target a certain individual then I am most certainly against it.
                      That's one way of looking at it. My glass is half full. Quite frankly, I'm stunned the Mayweathers requested this. And happy. Interestingly enough, no one has raised the issue of false positives, Mayweather testing positive, what tougher tests might entail, etc. How about fans stop trying to block a positive step just because they're afraid it's a one-time deal?

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