Comments Thread For: Bradley Fight Would Require Olympic Testing on Pacquiao

[whoelsebutjames]

Bradley Fight Would Require Olympic Testing on Pacquiao ?


Pacman fight would require Bradley to actually be a draw.

[myCoCainE]

So they now they have Pacquiao cornered, eh.

So now every promoter and fighter who wants to market themselves off the Pacquiao name is shouting about "olympic testing", throwing insults at the guy.

Just a couple of questions: Has Marquez, Malignaggi or even Mayweather ever done USADA testing. Or have they all done the testing procedures normal in pro boxing. Has any Golden Boy or Shaw fighter ever done USADA testing? Will they do USADA testing in their next fight if it is not against Pacquiao?

The answer to all these questions, of course, is a big no.

But now we have created a special lex Pacquiao, a rule that only applies for philippinoes who invade the country to beat up the local heroes.

How low can people go...?

It's ****in sad really. Haters disguising as fans have seen one reason to hate full blast due to what? accusations of a trainer (family) whose fighter he ass whooped and who's afraid his son is facing the beast? These baseless accusations really leading to prejudice. The guy hasn't even had any history of doping let alone cheating. Would Mosley get the same treatment cause obviously he IS a proven doper? I haven't seen any of his recent opponents requesting this ****. I think it all boils down to pacquiao just being different. If the USDA testing should be applied only to pacquiao fight then this motive is really questionable IMO.

[Cash Cow]

The situation taking place with Manny Pacquiao is exactly what many feared would happen. As I previously reported on BoxingScene.com, Manny Pacquiao's troubles will not end with Floyd Mayweather Jr. If the camps representing Pacquiao and Mayweather do not reach an agreement with respect to the random Olympic-style drug testing for their tentative March 13 bout - other potential opponents will make the same demands for the random Olympic-style drug testing. [Click Here To Read More]

lol@ the kiddy booth at the carnival

[BaT1gNaWonG]

He already tested once. That's probably not enough proof for you either lol. You claim Mayweather feared Cotto and Margarito. Called him a coward.That's also speculation, not fact.

Mayweather is a coward and a cheater. he cheated Marquez during their official weigh in, and thats a fact

[Pookey]

Arum should talk to his boy PAC and give him some and straighten him up. If they need to move the date further out just to give PAC time to take the test, then they should do that. With PAC refusing to take the full test implies that he is hiding something. Someone should contact PAC's mother and tell her that his son is being a pussie.

[big_james10]

The situation taking place with Manny Pacquiao is exactly what many feared would happen. As I previously reported on BoxingScene.com, Manny Pacquiao's troubles will not end with Floyd Mayweather Jr. If the camps representing Pacquiao and Mayweather do not reach an agreement with respect to the random Olympic-style drug testing for their tentative March 13 bout - other potential opponents will make the same demands for the random Olympic-style drug testing. [Click Here To Read More]

If Pac fights anyone other than Mayweather next, the media, the fans and the voters in the Phillipines would crucify him. Welcome to politics, Manny. Good luck trying to win an election as the local dog catcher after the hell hole you are digging for yourself.

[ELHURACAN58]

Manny's cheating days are over. American fighters are too smart to let him cheat against them.

Not really, you guys just know about it cause you use them all the time.

[jkaisen41]

The situation taking place with Manny Pacquiao is exactly what many feared would happen. As I previously reported on BoxingScene.com, Manny Pacquiao's troubles will not end with Floyd Mayweather Jr. If the camps representing Pacquiao and Mayweather do not reach an agreement with respect to the random Olympic-style drug testing for their tentative March 13 bout - other potential opponents will make the same demands for the random Olympic-style drug testing. [Click Here To Read More]

It should be that way... but I think that some will still see the money and fight Pacquiao...

Well, at least TopRank has hell of matchups...

Pacquiao vs. Margarito
Pacquiao vs. Cotto II
Pacquiao vs. Foreman (classic)
Pacquiao vs. Valero

But I also wouldn't wonder if Mosley would fight him without tests... Mosley will trust Pacquiao *looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool*

[Mr. Chago]

Blood vs. urine? USADA clears up fuss over Mayweather-Pacquiao drug testing feud

By Josh Slagter | The Grand Rapids Press
December 24, 2009, 11:55AM

The notion of bad blood interfering with the negotiations between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao's representatives wasn't far fetched. Neither camp gets along with the other.

But with Tuesday's announcement from Mayweather's camp that Pacquiao has refused the Olympic-style random drug testing, tensions have reached a new high.

The Nevada State Athletic Commission uses urine tests before and after fights to check for steroids other and performance-enhancing drugs. A blood test is required to earn a one-year license to fight in Nevada, too.

Mayweather's camp is demanding the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency conduct random blood tests during training. Pacqiuao's promoter, Bob Aurm, has said his fighter has agreed to be blood tested three times: in January, 30 days before the fight and then right after the fight.

Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA, told Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports that both urine and blood tests are needed to determine if a fighter is clean.

"There is no urine-based tested for human-growth hormone," Tygart said. "It doesn’t show up in the urine. It’s only a blood-based test. That’s true of a number of prohibited substances, particularly those that would enhance and aid a boxer.”

Tygert also added the schedule Arum is proposing won't work, because a fighter would have the advantage of knowing when he'd be tested.

“That kind of window is totally unacceptable,” Tygart said. “It would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.”

Dr. Gary Wadler, an internal medicine physician and chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency’s Prohibited List and Methods sub-committee, supported Tygar's position.

“The fundamental principle is that the time and place of testing is in the domain of the governing body, not of the athlete,” Wadler told Yahoo! Sports. “It would lose all its validity if the athlete could pick and choose when he is going to be tested and for what he’s going to be tested for and how he’s going to be tested. They’re sophisticated enough now that if someone wanted to, you could play the calendar to your advantage."

And to Arum's notion that Pacquaio will feel "weakened" by getting his blood drawn close to the fight? Victor Conte, the founder of Bay-Area Laboratory Cooperative (BALCO), said the tests would have no physical effect on either fighter.

“That amount would be less than one-half of one percent (of the total blood in the body),” Conte told Yahoo! Sports. “It’s not going to have any effect, the drawing of blood. Could it have some mental effect? That’s the only down side of that. It’s certainly not going to have any physical effect, giving blood before a fight.”

The implementation of drug testing remains the only sticking point on negotiations for a fight that could break all of boxing's revenue records.

Will either side blink in time for the fight to happen? It doesn't sound like Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe plans to back off on his demands.

"They're backed up against the wall. Either they're going to step up to the plate and do this, or my guy's not stepping up into the ring and fighting," Ellerbe said on "The Huge Show" on Wednesday. "If you have nothing to hide, why not subject yourself to this testing?"

E-mail Josh Slagter at jslagter@grpress.com and follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JoshSlagter

I just want you all to remember that according to Ariza PAC doesn´t know what he gives him!??...it´s worst every day...So how can PAC say he´s clean, just because he passes the same tests that SSM??!!, with no random test or blood tests...he may beleive so, BUT REALITY IS HE DOESN´T KNOW WHAT HE TAKES!

[ricky1978]

Blood vs. urine? USADA clears up fuss over Mayweather-Pacquiao drug testing feud

By Josh Slagter | The Grand Rapids Press
December 24, 2009, 11:55AM

The notion of bad blood interfering with the negotiations between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao's representatives wasn't far fetched. Neither camp gets along with the other.

But with Tuesday's announcement from Mayweather's camp that Pacquiao has refused the Olympic-style random drug testing, tensions have reached a new high.

The Nevada State Athletic Commission uses urine tests before and after fights to check for steroids other and performance-enhancing drugs. A blood test is required to earn a one-year license to fight in Nevada, too.

Mayweather's camp is demanding the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency conduct random blood tests during training. Pacqiuao's promoter, Bob Aurm, has said his fighter has agreed to be blood tested three times: in January, 30 days before the fight and then right after the fight.

Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA, told Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports that both urine and blood tests are needed to determine if a fighter is clean.

"There is no urine-based tested for human-growth hormone," Tygart said. "It doesn’t show up in the urine. It’s only a blood-based test. That’s true of a number of prohibited substances, particularly those that would enhance and aid a boxer.”

Tygert also added the schedule Arum is proposing won't work, because a fighter would have the advantage of knowing when he'd be tested.

“That kind of window is totally unacceptable,” Tygart said. “It would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.”

Dr. Gary Wadler, an internal medicine physician and chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency’s Prohibited List and Methods sub-committee, supported Tygar's position.

“The fundamental principle is that the time and place of testing is in the domain of the governing body, not of the athlete,” Wadler told Yahoo! Sports. “It would lose all its validity if the athlete could pick and choose when he is going to be tested and for what he’s going to be tested for and how he’s going to be tested. They’re sophisticated enough now that if someone wanted to, you could play the calendar to your advantage."

And to Arum's notion that Pacquaio will feel "weakened" by getting his blood drawn close to the fight? Victor Conte, the founder of Bay-Area Laboratory Cooperative (BALCO), said the tests would have no physical effect on either fighter.

“That amount would be less than one-half of one percent (of the total blood in the body),” Conte told Yahoo! Sports. “It’s not going to have any effect, the drawing of blood. Could it have some mental effect? That’s the only down side of that. It’s certainly not going to have any physical effect, giving blood before a fight.”

The implementation of drug testing remains the only sticking point on negotiations for a fight that could break all of boxing's revenue records.

Will either side blink in time for the fight to happen? It doesn't sound like Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe plans to back off on his demands.

"They're backed up against the wall. Either they're going to step up to the plate and do this, or my guy's not stepping up into the ring and fighting," Ellerbe said on "The Huge Show" on Wednesday. "If you have nothing to hide, why not subject yourself to this testing?"

E-mail Josh Slagter at jslagter@grpress.com and follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JoshSlagter

props to you, excellent thread. That is true, if you are not hiding something, just take the test. He probably is getting injected some crazy phillipino **** and he is scared now....