If Manny has been taking Roids/HGH will this reduce his legacy?

**4773Y350NM3** · 12-24-2009, 08:04 AM

If people claims Shane and Roy as one of the ATGs, I dont think why PAC should be treated any different?

**adamt** · 12-24-2009, 08:21 AM

i just think any boxer taking enhancement drugs should be disregarded as a great boxer.

Its plain cheating.
Sure you have to have natural talent but i still think it should significantly affect their legacy

**Rabbit ♠** · 12-24-2009, 08:34 AM

No TS. The general public loves hgh and steroids. The asterik marks by baseball players represents how awsome the record is. I'm sure people will be happy and it won't be frowned upon.

**4773Y350NM3** · 12-24-2009, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by adamt

i just think any boxer taking enhancement drugs should be disregarded as a great boxer.

Its plain cheating.
Sure you have to have natural talent but i still think it should significantly affect their legacy

Baseball is more worse imo, and A-ROD the biggest star in baseball admitted he used PED in his career. Too bad Barry's situation didnt go as well. But the fans still cheer him A-ROD on like nothing happen. Boxing is diff tho, many other intangibles is on the play. It doesnt mean you took PED, you automatically beat all your opponents. Imo performance enhancers is part of boxing, everybody taken it, in some way or the other but not all enhancers is illegal mind you. Its just wrong to single out PAC with this olympic style testing, when everybody is using something just as the same. Just because one person is so scared to lose. Thats why the boxing way of testing boxers, still didnt chance from the old yrs, because imo they already accept it as a natural thing. Many things comes to play in a boxing match, not just speed, power, timing. Its the skills that will make you a victor, and PED cant give you skills.

Just my humble opinion.

**Xeraser** · 12-24-2009, 08:59 AM

Steroid are usually excreted in urine so it will show up urine no matter what. PAC was tested 10 times and nothing was ever found.

EPO and HGH will not show up urine but on blood test. PAC already agreed to a blodd test up to 48 hours before the fight and right after the fight. So that should be enough.

There has been a lot of things that people said about HGH and all those Internet sites that sell them that are miscontrued like how HGH heals injury faster and makes you stronger. But no athletes has been caught because the reality is it does very little other than build a muscle mass.

**Barix** · 12-24-2009, 09:11 AM

It will not affect his legacy. ATGs of the past have been taking steroids and PEDs and they are still credited for their accomplishments.

**SplitSecond** · 12-24-2009, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by 4773Y350NM3

If people claims Shane and Roy as one of the ATGs, I dont think why PAC should be treated any different?

Roy Jones took steroids? don't think so.
Your just a casual fan, what do you know?

**MBL** · 12-24-2009, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by adamt

Lets say hypothetically that Manny has been taking enhancement drugs.
We dont know how long for, just that he is positive to them say before the Flloyd fight.

Enhancement drugs can greatly improve muscle growth, fitness and possibly more important bxing attributes.

So if he is positive, will this affect his legacy??

If he has been on enhancement drugs that could explain a bit.

Will all his previous impressive records be tarnished?

If he is positive, does he deserve the respect he currently gets?

I stopped reading after you used the word "hypothetically" then you write "We dont know how long for"

but no it wouldnt, I for one think some people should use the roids because as a boxing fan theres nothing more I hate then even competition
they should be allowed to kick/low blow/rabbit punch and use a weapon also

**k1llu** · 12-24-2009, 09:18 AM

Yes it will.

If Manny has been taking Roids/HGH will this reduce his legacy?