Do y'all even know what RANDOM drug testing means???

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  • jrosales13
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    #11
    Originally posted by KILLA RIGHT
    wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then how ***en come olympic athletes don't ***** about this? They never bring this up. Cycling is much worse no other athlete get's tested more then lance armstrong and he's still the greatest cyclist of all time. So if manny is so great why can't he do it? Who's to say floyd wont get tested more and at a worse time?
    In the olympics when a swimmer is going against Michael Phelps can he demand a new drug test?

    A track and field athlete is going up against Usain Bolt. Can that runner demand a new drug test?

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      #12
      Originally posted by BennyST
      None of that would happen though. They are never going to test a fighter during the middle of the night. It wouldn't be at any abnormal times. They would both be the same time periods and one fighter wouldn't be treated any differently. Random just means you are not told beforehand about it. The intervals between are still very similar and the times completely normal. They don't deliberately treat one guy badly and the other well. They are pro athlete testers and realise that they also need to be doing it without interrupting the athletes' training schedule.
      You know this how? It sounds like you've had some kind of experience with Olympic drug tests. Again, the point is not that they WILL do it, it's that they CAN do it.

      Can you then reason with Arum wanting a drug agency that is used to dealing with professional leagues such as the NBA and NFL who know how to deal with pro athletes and their busy schedules?

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      • KILLA RIGHT
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        #13
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        In the olympics when a swimmer is going against Michael Phelps can he demand a new drug test?

        A track and field athlete is going up against Usain Bolt. Can that runner demand a new drug test?
        No because they can't negotiate on the money or event. Armstrong get's called a cheater and he is willing to do extra testing to prove people wrong. Not manny. Even though im not a manny fan i have always had his back when people said he was on roids. Till now i just think it's fishy. I hope he's clean but come on take the test

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        • !! Shawn
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          #14
          Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
          How fair would it be if Fighter A gets tested at 4 AM every single time while Fighter B gets tested at 4 PM everytime?

          See how this kind of **** could affect training?
          Ask Lance Armstrong about fair. He was randomly selected for testing several days in a row at 4am on multiple occasions. Of course it wasn't just the French harassing him...

          The problem with "random" testing is that it is open to corruption regarding when and where to test.

          Scheduled testing isn't.

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          • !! Shawn
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            #15
            Originally posted by BennyST
            Not necessarily. They both have the same amount of tests, and they are both spread across the same time-frame. They wouldn't do one guy six times across the two weeks before the fight and the other once a week for every week before the fight.

            Random is simply meaning they can come in at any time and you have to do it then and there, but it is not being able to do it a certain amount of times in a very short period. They are still done at intervals across the whole time period but you are not informed until just before.
            That is an inaccurate assumption. Random means they could Test one fighter every day the week of the fight, while the other fighters tests are spread out.

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              #16
              Originally posted by KILLA RIGHT
              No because they can't negotiate on the money or event. Armstrong get's called a cheater and he is willing to do extra testing to prove people wrong. Not manny. Even though im not a manny fan i have always had his back when people said he was on roids. Till now i just think it's fishy. I hope he's clean but come on take the test
              So you saying other Olympian athletes can not demand record breaking athletes like Phelps and Bolt to take a new and improve drug test?

              That is what you are saying.

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              • The Great Shark
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                #17
                The only reason they do this is to deter athletes from taking steroids at any given time. That way if they do decide to use roids, they can be caught before hand.

                What I don't understand is how Pacquiao can agree to taking tests but not even a day before the fight. Its the same ****. People made fun of Ward because of how he thanked God for his win, yet Pacquiao gets the pass for being superstitious about getting blood drawn. Astounding.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by !! Shawn
                  That is an inaccurate assumption. Random means they could Test one fighter every day the week of the fight, while the other fighters tests are spread out.
                  They COULD, but that would kinda defeat the purpose in the first place.

                  If you were leading that operation, would you demand that one guy gets all of his shots done in 1 week while the other's is spread out?

                  You're asking for a lawsuit because that's much too intrusive and its showing clear bias to the other guy

                  If you did that no question somebody would be losing their job. Nobody wants that kind of fallout on their shoulders.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by KILLA RIGHT
                    wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then how ***en come olympic athletes don't ***** about this? They never bring this up. Cycling is much worse no other athlete get's tested more then lance armstrong and he's still the greatest cyclist of all time. So if manny is so great why can't he do it? Who's to say floyd wont get tested more and at a worse time?

                    I swear to God everybody in boxingscene is either a psychologist, a physician, or both lol.

                    Psychologist: Oh Pac is suspect. Oh Pac is definitely doping because he don't want his blood drawn within a week of the fight. Blah Blah Blah LOL

                    Physician: It won't affect him physiologically. It won't weaken him. Blah Blah Blah. LOL

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
                      You're trying to compare professional boxing to an olympic sport?
                      I don't see the correlation.

                      Even if Cyclists did ***** about the Olympic testing, how the *** would you or I know?

                      The point is not that the random drug testing people WILL do it, it's that they CAN do it.




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