Comments Thread For: Sources: Marquez Bout To Have Test Demands on Pacquiao

[Divine Hammer]

how can they defend this? Marquez has always wanted a clean fair fight. Just cause he can make wonders with urine and quail eggs doesnt mean hes on the juice

you do realize heredia has helped olympic athletes cheat their tests right?

people don't seem to realize that heredia is a big time steroid scientist who makes undetectable PEDs.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...-espn-magazine

Heredia became perhaps the most prolific drug dealer in track and field, a steroids savant who supplied hard-to-detect PEDs to Stewart and a dozen star athletes. He was also an expert in the contours of high-level cheating, endlessly studying the World Anti-Doping Agency's code so he could crack it.

so guess what? even if marquez asks for extra testing, it doesn't really mean much when you have a guy who can beat the tests.

[The Big Dunn]

how can they defend this? Marquez has always wanted a clean fair fight. Just cause he can make wonders with urine and quail eggs doesnt mean hes on the juice

Come cleto you have to see the pattern:

Floyd and JMM ask Manny for testing-they are cowards
Manny asks rios for testing-its just to prevent cheating
Ward/Porter says no to PED testing-its because he may be using
Manny says no to PED testing-its ok it was just too late to ask (why didn't he ask earlier like he did with rios?)
JMM doesn't KO Manny then does-PED's
Manny doesn't KO Morales then does-natural power
Manny passes tests-he's clean
JMM passes same tests-he had undetectable PED's.
Mayweather gym guys test positive-Floyd is using
Wild card guys test positive-uhh its just them, not Manny.
When its Manny-look at the other guy
When its the other guy-look at his actions and floyd

[Cleto_Reyes]

Come cleto you have to see the pattern:

Floyd and JMM ask Manny for testing-they are cowards
Manny asks rios for testing-its just to prevent cheating
Ward/Porter says no to PED testing-its because he may be using
Manny says no to PED testing-its ok it was just too late to ask (why didn't he ask earlier like he did with rios?)
JMM doesn't KO Manny then does-PED's
Manny doesn't KO Morales then does-natural power
Manny passes tests-he's clean
JMM passes same tests-he had undetectable PED's.

When its Manny-look at the other guy
When its the other guy-look at his actions and floyd

haha exactly . such double standards from Pactars

[Divine Hammer]

manny never linked to any PED scientist or expert or anything at all. JMM is linked to notorious PED scientist heredia who can cheat tests, Ward and Porter linked to former BALCO boss Conte.

stop defending marquez who is working with a steroid scientist. i thought you floyd fans cared about cleaning up the sport? yet you guys turn a blind eye and even defend someone who hires an expert steroid scientist who can cheat the tests? you guys are really shameless.

Come cleto you have to see the pattern:

Floyd and JMM ask Manny for testing-they are cowards
Manny asks rios for testing-its just to prevent cheating
Ward/Porter says no to PED testing-its because he may be using
Manny says no to PED testing-its ok it was just too late to ask (why didn't he ask earlier like he did with rios?)
JMM doesn't KO Manny then does-PED's
Manny doesn't KO Morales then does-natural power
Manny passes tests-he's clean
JMM passes same tests-he had undetectable PED's.
Mayweather gym guys test positive-Floyd is using
Wild card guys test positive-uhh its just them, not Manny.
When its Manny-look at the other guy
When its the other guy-look at his actions and floyd

[The Big Dunn]

haha exactly . such double standards from Pactars

Exactly. As long as Floyd was the other guy, a lot of NSB didn't give a damn because they want Floyd and his fans to get knocked down a few pegs.

Then when it became JMM-NSB realizes that the diehard pac fans on NSB will do anything to make manny look good, even if it means taking some of the absolutely ridiculous positions they have.

[johnm is...]

Come cleto you have to see the pattern:

Floyd and JMM ask Manny for testing-they are cowards
Manny asks rios for testing-its just to prevent cheating
Ward/Porter says no to PED testing-its because he may be using
Manny says no to PED testing-its ok it was just too late to ask (why didn't he ask earlier like he did with rios?)
JMM doesn't KO Manny then does-PED's
Manny doesn't KO Morales then does-natural power
Manny passes tests-he's clean
JMM passes same tests-he had undetectable PED's.
Mayweather gym guys test positive-Floyd is using
Wild card guys test positive-uhh its just them, not Manny.
When its Manny-look at the other guy
When its the other guy-look at his actions and floyd

[Beercules]

Hmm, Pacquiao does VADA testing, JMM doesn't want the fight? why? You already ktfo Pacquiao before, you would be able to do it with testing right?

[The Big Dunn]

manny never linked to any PED scientist or expert or anything at all. JMM is linked to notorious PED scientist heredia who can cheat tests, Ward and Porter linked to former BALCO boss Conte.

stop defending marquez who is working with a steroid scientist. i thought you floyd fans cared about cleaning up the sport? yet you guys turn a blind eye and even defend someone who hires an expert steroid scientist who can cheat the tests? you guys are really shameless.

Teddy Atlas said manny and his team sent a letter asking what would happen if Manny tested positive for PED's. Tim Smith of the NY Daily news corroborated this.

We are not turning a blind eye-we saw JMM pass the same tests Manny did. We also saw Manny ask that both not get tested. We also know Manny asked rios for testing well in advance of that fight but didn't ask JMM.

We can't just selectively focus on just the things you and other diehard manny fans want us to. We have to look at all the facts. If it's guilt by association, well a lot of Floyd fans think Ariza is Memo lite.

JMM met the standards and conditions you and other diehard Manny fans felt Manny met to determine his cleanliness. As such, its extremely hypocritical, and borderline insane, for you to yell at us for not saying JMM is dirty

[The Big Dunn]

Hmm, Pacquiao does VADA testing, JMM doesn't want the fight? why? You already ktfo Pacquiao before, you would be able to do it with testing right?

Manny asks rios for testing well in advance of the fight. Manny never asked any other opponent for testing at all. You already beat Rios with testing, why not ask JMM for it?

[Divine Hammer]

oh wow a letter asking what would happen if manny tested positive. that really the best you can dig up? still doesn't link pac to any PED scientist, expert or anything. you guys should stick with "mystery shakes" because at least i can get a good laugh out of it hahahahahaha pathetic.

meanwhile marquez, ward, porter, rios, donaire, etc. are all linked to known steroid scientists and experts and you floyd fans defend them and turn a blind eye. all you're focused on is manny. admit it.

manny has mystery shakes = he's on steroids
manny didn't initially accept testing = he's on steroids
manny slowing down now at the old age of 35 = he's off steroids

marquez hires a known steroid scientist = he not on steroids/you guys defend him
rios works with heredia for second alvarado fight = he not on steroids/you guys are all silent
porter, ward, donaire, etc. hire conte = you guys are all silent

you guys are shameless. why aren't you demanding that marquez and the rest of these guys who work with conte and heredia take USADA or VADA testing? where are all your clever memes?

and there is no credible proof of ariza giving ANYONE peds. all you guys have to go on is these mystery shakes that could be ANYTHING hahahahahaha. so don't give me this memo lite hahahaha. only thing that has been proven about ariza is that he is a big jerk that will karate kick an old man with parkinsons.

Teddy Atlas said manny and his team sent a letter asking what would happen if Manny tested positive for PED's. Tim Smith of the NY Daily news corroborated this.

We are not turning a blind eye-we saw JMM pass the same tests Manny did. We also saw Manny ask that both not get tested. We also know Manny asked rios for testing well in advance of that fight but didn't ask JMM.

We can't just selectively focus on just the things you and other diehard manny fans want us to. We have to look at all the facts. If it's guilt by association, well a lot of Floyd fans think Ariza is Memo lite.

JMM met the standards and conditions you and other diehard Manny fans felt Manny met to determine his cleanliness. As such, its extremely hypocritical, and borderline insane, for you to yell at us for not saying JMM is dirty