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Originally posted by velisar
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I'm sure Team Pac would DEMAND Mosley to take those tests though....lol -
Mayweather is just making an issue here to skipped Pac from Pac devastations! We have set of rules and guidelines to follow in boxing used by great boxers in the past until to this contemporary time and generally effective, and suddenly why needs to change now just because of the demand of crazy Mayweather? Why this rules should apply only to Pac-Mayweather while not in the past, present and scheduled other matches, just because of this unfounded malicious su****ion of this Mayweather Sr? This is not an issue of roids and fear of needles anymore but more an ego to man up these rules in boxing and discard what is not. More than not an issue of Pac swallowing his ego for 20 million dollars to concede Mayweather demand because if so, Mayweather will swallow his for this 20 million dollars to concede to the counter-proposal of Pac! This is an issue of adhering to the existing boxing rules and to fight to win! Me too even if I am clean if I were Pac, I will not subject myself to that ridiculous demand of the Mayweather except if they would present an evidence that I had cheated in my performances! Because if pac gives up to their demand, the precedence will be worse and it will not ends up from Pac-Maywether saga but threaten boxing rules as a whole in the future!Originally posted by The Stone Roses View Post
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Man for 50 million Dollars, i'll let a Mo-Fo shoot right up in the ring. heck in between rounds for 50 million dollars. Floyd needs to just go ahead and handle his biz, then say, i even beat this dude on roids...ha!Comment
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Pac should just take the test and then demand to have Floyd checked by a battery of doctors and scientists if he is indeed human and not a chicken.
Tit for tat.Comment
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while they're testing for roids, they should test Gayweather for having too much sugar in his tank....i've always thought he was a little fruity...all this money and i never see him with a girl...i bet Gayweather and Ellerby are rubbing weenies.Comment
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My 2 cents on the ARUM/PACMAN vs GB/MONEY
I'm hearing a lot of you guys out there consistently saying that Pacman and Bob have agreed to do 3 test (1 at the official fight announcement, 1 30 b4 the fight, and 1 after the fight) but the one thing that everyone is missing is how can those test be legitimate submitted as valid test when the fighter himself is dictatating when the test can be done??? By knowing the testing scheduled he's working with, at any given time during those 3 periods said fight can mask/cycle anything he's using in order to come up clean for the bogus test. The reason Mayweather team and GB are requesting staggered, unannounced testing is that you won't know when the test are coming so if YOU ARE USING A PED, you better stay clean cause you will have no idea when that mean ole man with the needle and pee cup are coming
Mr Arum, Coach Roach, and Kronck (whatever his name is) are all very intelligent and sensible individuals that knows and understand this process, so if they continue to fight this like they are, it simply tells me and the millions of GLOBAL boxing fans that have support PACMAN for his accomplishments that there's something ROTTEN IN DENMARK!!
And honestly, I think TOP RANK and GB should revise that contract and through in an extra $10-15mil for Money Maweather baby, cause he's wit and know-how to promote a fight his taken this to....like my man on SNL would say...A WHOLE....NOTHER........LEVEL!!! This fight will end up having 4million PPV buys, cause people will want to turn-in and see if MM was right or Manny is just a BEAST w/o PEDS!! Really just think about if you pick-up any newspaper, view any entertainment/sports/news website, cnn, cbs, the examiner, etc...it doesn’t matter, what subject matter have they all had in common over the last 48-72hrs...not Tiger Woods, not the Healthcare Bill, and not even SANTA CLAUS....but yep the MAYWEATHER-PACQUIAO fight dispute of Pacman being afraid of needles and the unwillingness to accept random blood/urine test...and this is from a man that takes punches to the face and body for a LIVING from some of the hardest punches in the weight classes he's fought in, and get this he's afraid of needles but he sports tattoos that requires multiple needles endure And how in the hell can he be afraid of needles Mr. Arum when the guy looked right into the camera on 24/7 and said hey I give MYSELF MY FIRST TATTOO with a needle (remember that little mis-shaped boxing glove he's sporting).
Enough already let' move on and get the fight signed and get the MGM GRAND ARENA and the TV's around the world something to stand-up and applause and happy about for the sport that we all love!!!
And he I would love to chop it up some more with you guys out there...hit me up at boxnmn2k3@yahoo.comComment
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Blood vs. urine? USADA clears up fuss over Mayweather-Pacquiao drug testing feud
By Josh Slagter | The Grand Rapids Press
December 24, 2009, 11:55AM
The notion of bad blood interfering with the negotiations between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao's representatives wasn't far fetched. Neither camp gets along with the other.
But with Tuesday's announcement from Mayweather's camp that Pacquiao has refused the Olympic-style random drug testing, tensions have reached a new high.
The Nevada State Athletic Commission uses urine tests before and after fights to check for steroids other and performance-enhancing drugs. A blood test is required to earn a one-year license to fight in Nevada, too.
Mayweather's camp is demanding the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency conduct random blood tests during training. Pacqiuao's promoter, Bob Aurm, has said his fighter has agreed to be blood tested three times: in January, 30 days before the fight and then right after the fight.
Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA, told Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports that both urine and blood tests are needed to determine if a fighter is clean.
"There is no urine-based tested for human-growth hormone," Tygart said. "It doesn’t show up in the urine. It’s only a blood-based test. That’s true of a number of prohibited substances, particularly those that would enhance and aid a boxer.”
Tygert also added the schedule Arum is proposing won't work, because a fighter would have the advantage of knowing when he'd be tested.
“That kind of window is totally unacceptable,” Tygart said. “It would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.”
Dr. Gary Wadler, an internal medicine physician and chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency’s Prohibited List and Methods sub-committee, supported Tygar's position.
“The fundamental principle is that the time and place of testing is in the domain of the governing body, not of the athlete,” Wadler told Yahoo! Sports. “It would lose all its validity if the athlete could pick and choose when he is going to be tested and for what he’s going to be tested for and how he’s going to be tested. They’re sophisticated enough now that if someone wanted to, you could play the calendar to your advantage."
And to Arum's notion that Pacquaio will feel "weakened" by getting his blood drawn close to the fight? Victor Conte, the founder of Bay-Area Laboratory Cooperative (BALCO), said the tests would have no physical effect on either fighter.
“That amount would be less than one-half of one percent (of the total blood in the body),” Conte told Yahoo! Sports. “It’s not going to have any effect, the drawing of blood. Could it have some mental effect? That’s the only down side of that. It’s certainly not going to have any physical effect, giving blood before a fight.”
The implementation of drug testing remains the only sticking point on negotiations for a fight that could break all of boxing's revenue records.
Will either side blink in time for the fight to happen? It doesn't sound like Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe plans to back off on his demands.
"They're backed up against the wall. Either they're going to step up to the plate and do this, or my guy's not stepping up into the ring and fighting," Ellerbe said on "The Huge Show" on Wednesday. "If you have nothing to hide, why not subject yourself to this testing?"
E-mail Josh Slagter at jslagter@grpress.com and follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JoshSlagterComment
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ICETA - "...pre madonna stipulations that Pac demands all the time like 10 mill per pound over the weight limit." - that's so Gayrunner won't pull the same **** that he did with marquez (coming in 2lbs heavier than the 144lbs catchweight that Garyrunner himself set for Marquez to fight on). 10million/lbs over the 147lbs is to make sure Fraud Gayrunner comes in at 147lbs. Mind you, Ellerbe already said that the Mayweather camp already agreed to all the stimpulations of the contract...all they are waiting for is Pacquiao's ok to the drug testing. Of which Pacquiao said that he will give blood (3X, in Jan, Feb, and after the March fight) and as much urine as they want from Jan. to the night of the fight. So I don't see any problem with that. Anyone in the medical/med-tech/biochemistry field can tell you that steriods, HGH, or any PEDs will stay in your system for a longtime - even trace amounts can be detected. Now about all these masking solutions or techniques I don't know anything about. But couldn't they test for the masking agents also, such that if Gayrunner or Pacquiao should have it in their systems "ASS OUT, BUSTED." Can anyone shed some light on the masking agents? Please. Like I stated before, should Pacquiao do this - then this random style of should be done to all professional fighters (boxing and mma) - F***K IT! To all professional sports.Comment
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is floyd really a chicken?Originally posted by blacksocks View Post
a lot of roids and other drugs in chicken.
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i dout if pac throw away 40 mil............how much maywrinkle sr. beloved daughter can get too?????Originally posted by lcheezy View Post
i guess......its equal to his 0 too........hehehehe
this is the equation for floyd......
0 lose = 0 money OR...
1 brutal lose = 40 million $$....
being a coward he prefers to do this bull****s in order to maintain his 0...Comment
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