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    #11
    Originally posted by DLT
    Serious question, not trolling. What if Pac agrees to the test, passes the test, but Floyd wins the fight? Would you feel like those test had something to do with it, wether it be physical or mental?
    On blood tests: principles matter

    December 23, 1:32 AMHouston Boxing ExaminerMarv Dumon

    Intro: The volley back was hard, and along the baseline. Camp Mayweather's "topspin" spurred the lime-colored tennis ball to travel at 90 mph. The camp succeeded in ruffling the feathers of the sport as well as members of Team Pacquiao, by demanding medically unnecessary blood tests. That it is part of a procession of ploys is firmly established.
    That Manny harbors some measure of phobia for needles and blood extraction suggests that Floyd Mayweather, Jr. has found a (hot) button to push that stirs intense reaction from Team Pac and from the sport closely following the negotiation process. 15 - Love: score for Floyd.
    S i m p l e I n t e n t >
    The intent is simple: ruffle feathers. Throw a wrench. Press the "RESET" button. In the wisdom of American founding father Thomas Jefferson: "Nothing gives one person so much advantage over another as to remain always cool and unruffled under all circumstances." Camp Mayweather wins this battle in only one scenario: if Team Pacquiao ignores its principles.
    In geo-politics, such ploys have reared its ugly head thousands of times. Responses have been different, according to the leadership disposition of the opposing party. During the Cold War, the American leadership considered Soviet invasion on the free section of Berlin as an attack by Soviet Russia on the United States. Particularly, the American military was weary of repeating the mistake of appeasement, such as the toleration of Adolf Hitler and **** Germany. Appeasing a bully leads to ever increasing demands, making war the only viable and rationale option. Thus, Cold War policy against the red Soviets became: Nip the bud. Stand your ground. If you attack Berlin or South Korea, we reserve the right to repel your forces by way of nuclear weapons (which could be fired from battlefield artillery).
    A G a m e o f R I S K >
    The fight may be construed as "jeopardized" so that if, and when, an announcement does take place, excitement is enhanced. Camp Mayweather after all participates in pay-per-view revenues. They practice brazen and bold moves. The maneuver came from a twisted intent. The "dark side of the force."
    When a man is aware that the world hates him, he makes the world hate him even more. He is able to affect the masses' temperament by pressing buttons. Predictable reactions ensue. Pavlov's dog wags its tail and salivates for more dog treats. The circus grows in circumference. When hate is built up, the drama of the clash is heightened. The method by which he chose to steer the process is straight from the pages of professional wrestling's promotional strategem. Clowns view concessions as weakness and personal turpitude. Frailty in character is catalyst for further provocation. You get pushed, until you get pushed to the brink. Like in a schoolyard. The clown succeeds.
    P r i n c i p l e s M a t t e r >
    A short story. I observed the late Senator Raul Roco up close, being able to see his interactions with people, in public and private. His speeches were majestic - a man of humble roots, yet armed with towering talent. More meaningfully, an authentic character and decent man meant his words. Corresponding actions followed. A party attempted to persuade the senator to cease exposing suspected drug dealers in highly visible congressional hearings. Roco got mad, and quickly brushed aside the appeals. To impede actions that facilitated the betterment of his country went against his principles. Most would consider backing out, for fear of danger, or for paltry kickbacks - at the expense of national welfare. Raul Roco (in one speech), in recalling ancient Greek mythology, extolled the audience to conquer the fears that (tragically) resided in their hearts; of the fear of success . . .
    Principles matter. If you act against your own principles, even if you win . . . you lose. Character and integrity matter for a lifetime. If the above intent is true, seeking another opponent - as Bob Arum suggests - would be an appropriate way to go. Or retirement. Manny Pacquiao is pursuing next level goals in life, in the worthy realm of public service. If the team seeks another fight, perhaps the winner of Shane Mosley vs Andre Berto. Perhaps a third bout with Juan Manuel Marquez, as Freddie Roach suggested prior to the Miguel Cotto fight.
    "The wicked flee when no man pursueth," states the bible. Journalists, advisors, promoters, etc., do not matter here. Only one man does, in the face of such response. We get to see what kind of leader Pacquiao is - before the real and elevated tests of public policy and international affairs. Principles and integrity are always on the line. Alignment with higher truths can mark legacy as unblemished and honorable. Missteps in response can degrade it to the level of buffoons. Welcome to big time politico. For the proposed showdown, money is motivation for most. The marketplace only looks at value. The calculus is derived from cash accounting and accruals. But the world of the seen comes from the unseen. Jefferson offers an appropriate (and timeless) guide: "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." And aptly, so does former U.S. president Dwight Eisenhower: "A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."

    http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-4...nciples-matter

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      #12
      Originally posted by lady fan
      mayweather bluff: Floyd never wanted to fight pacquiao in march

      december 23, 1:07 amindianapolis fight sports examinerdennis "dsource" guillermo

      i said it then and i'm going to say it again. All these nonsense is nothing but your typical floyd mayweather jr. Smoke.
      What did i tell you? mayweather never intended to fight pacquiao on march 13. In case you haven't noticed, mayweather does most of his work with his mouth and working the media rather than really just lacing his gloves up against the best competition available.
      Forget that he avoided antonio margarito, shane mosley, miguel cotto and paul williams right?! Mayweather never runs out of excuses, mind games, propaganda and trash talk to cover up the truth.
      And the truth is? floyd never wanted to fight manny in march. Just sign the contract already floyd!
      All these media posturing, press releases and trash talk is just cheapening, not only himself, but the sport of boxing as well. First it was the venue, then it was the weight, and now what? Steroids? Again? Has the sport really sunk so low to allow the biggest fight of the decade to be controlled by floyd mayweather sr.? Luckily it isn't and bob arum is right to suggest to simply dump these clowns.
      arum responded to team mayweather's press release saying, "the press release is absurd. Mayweather proves that he's a coward and he's looking for a way out of the fight. The nevada commission has been doing drug testing for the last 40 years. To appease mayweather, we agreed they could do urine analysis anytime they wanted. But manny doesn't want them to draw his blood when he's in training because it weakens him," arum said in an article published by usatoday.
      I respect floyd's skill as a boxer, but as a warrior and a fighter, the man is a ducker. He does his fighting in the media and with his mouth and just as pacquiao's trainer freddie roach said in an interview with brad cooney and 8countnews, "he's just looking for a way out of the fight. He is scared, and he's just afraid that he's going to get his ass kicked. We don't work for floyd mayweather. We fight for the state commission, since when does the fighter make up the rules?"
      adhd alert: Hbo's harold lederman believes pacquiao is clean (click to read)

      let him run manny. Mayweather isn't worth it. You don't need him. Your legacy is set, and his, unfortunately for him, stands as one of the most talented fighters ever who chose not to fight the best fighters of his era.
      Personally, i am sick of mayweather's cheap tactics just like how he had that bogus rib injury to push his fight back, then coming in over the weight limit for his fight against marquez giving him added advantage over a man who is already smaller and handicapped as it is.
      This whole olympics steroid testing is a joke. Actually, pacquiao already agreed to mayweather's unnecessary demands and was willing to get his blood drawn a month before the fight and after the fight. If he indeed has any banned substance in him, they can be traced and detected by a test after the fight. Actually, the nevada state athletic commission has a very efficient drug testing as it is. All mayweather is doing is simply finding ways to further get an edge and discredit pacquiao's reputation. All it really tells me is that mayweather is afraid to fight pacquiao and will do everything he can to destroy him outside the ring and avoid being destroyed by him in it.
      It's really cheap, sad and pathetic. Fight fans aren't ******. This press release from gbp didn't come unexpected on my end however. Like i reported back then, mayweather was simply bluffing. I got from people around mayweather that he was training and preparing to fight in england possibly against matthew hatton then a day after they release a statement on espn saying he agreed to fight pacquiao? You got to understand, press releases from team mayweather should not be taken as news. They are statements from mayweather's camp.

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      screw the mind games, just sign the contract floyd. Everyone in boxing abides by the same rules and regulations, and by saying the same tests nsac does for every boxer and fighter that comes in to fight in nevada isn't good enough for you, then i guess you should have just stayed retired. What is mayweather really trying to say? That boxing is a dirty sport? I'm afraid his ego and perhaps the paranoia he has inherited from his dad has gotten the best of him.
      Fighters fight. And the funny thing is, mayweather is worried about all these things against a smaller guy. He throws the word fairness, yet he himself could not honor his catchweight contract against marquez in september. I told you i didn't want to be johnny raincloud when the world was thinking the superfight was finally happening, and i've said it before and i'll say it again, barring any last minute "courage" from floyd, he does not intend to fight pacquiao on march 13. Expect talks of mayweather fighting in europe to resurface. So if i were you, i'll just leave floyd alone if he wants to fight smaller and over-matched opponents. Pacquiao is simply too big, too good and too dangerous for floyd right now.


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      jaf = just a fact

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        #13
        There shouldn't be excuses both men will take the same test.

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          #14
          Originally posted by DLT
          Serious question, not trolling. What if Pac agrees to the test, passes the test, but Floyd wins the fight? Would you feel like those test had something to do with it, wether it be physical or mental?
          Oh brother! May we have some sanity on Mayweather, Jr. vs. Pacquiao please?

          December 23, 2:14 AMDallas Boxing ExaminerMatt Stolow

          Golden Boy Promotions, Inc. wanted "The Fight" in Las Vegas, Nevada so much, and now it wants the state to change its rules for its fighter, Floyd Mayweather, Jr., for just this one fight? When will this end? I'm personally tired of this act.

          I don't think anyone will get the attention of Golden Boy until we start dangling their ticket allotment in front of their faces. Then we'll see them sweat. Maybe even donate its fee from Mayweather Promotions to a charity. I know a non-profit group in need of funds!

          It's the US Anti-Doping Agency! Have you seen the American Olympic boxing talent they have been cranking out over the past few Olympiads? This isn't 1976 Montreal my friends.

          I trust the Nevada State Athletic Commission can take care of its business, as it has all these many years and it doesn't need help from Golden Boy Promotions or anyone else.

          In typical Bob Arum fashion he has said "The Fight" is off. What a drama queen! I think he's negotiable.

          Wednesday morning, December 23, 2009 in America we are 79 days out from March 13, 2010. Ali-Frazier "The Fight of the Century" was pulled off in 67 days. Here's my story on it at 98 days out.
          http://www.examiner.com/x-11372-Dallas-Boxing-Examiner~y2009m12d7-Mayweather-vs-Pacquiao-has-98-days-Ali-vs-Frazier-I-was-67-days
          Golden Boy and Richard Schaefer continue to embarrass boxing.
          First they refused to fully hear out the bid of Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and virtually blew any chance of having Mayweather, Jr. vs. Pacquiao on the world's biggest stage (100,000 capacity) that has already won bids for a Super Bowl, NBA All Star Game and NCAA Final Four for a 16,200 seat arena. The sports world officials are laughing.
          Second, he has now brought drug issues to the table before boxing's biggest event.
          Mayweather, Jr.'s last fight is still steeped in controversy because of Golden Boy playing fast and loose with the rules regarding their fighter, Mayweather, Jr., coming in two pounds overweight and making a mockery of the system because they wouldn't announce the maximum weights allowed through the promotion and not until the weigh in. That was preposterous.

          Manny Pacquiao is complying with the rules that are on the books. They were the same as his past 10 fights in Nevada. That's good enough for me.

          Maybe the United States Anti- Doping Agency is looking for gratuitous publicity and didn't realize where Golden Boy was taking them.

          In other news, Golden Boy legally petitioned the Nevada State Athletic Commission for the right to promote the fight in the state on either March 13, 2010 or May 1, 2010.

          There were plenty of big fights in Nevada before Golden Boy came on the scene and there will be plenty afterwards.

          I would hate to lose this one. I don't think we are at that point yet but the date is getting ominous.


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            #15
            Originally posted by Lady Fan
            On blood tests: principles matter

            December 23, 1:32 AMHouston Boxing ExaminerMarv Dumon

            Intro: The volley back was hard, and along the baseline. Camp Mayweather's "topspin" spurred the lime-colored tennis ball to travel at 90 mph. The camp succeeded in ruffling the feathers of the sport as well as members of Team Pacquiao, by demanding medically unnecessary blood tests. That it is part of a procession of ploys is firmly established.
            That Manny harbors some measure of phobia for needles and blood extraction suggests that Floyd Mayweather, Jr. has found a (hot) button to push that stirs intense reaction from Team Pac and from the sport closely following the negotiation process. 15 - Love: score for Floyd.
            S i m p l e I n t e n t >
            The intent is simple: ruffle feathers. Throw a wrench. Press the "RESET" button. In the wisdom of American founding father Thomas Jefferson: "Nothing gives one person so much advantage over another as to remain always cool and unruffled under all circumstances." Camp Mayweather wins this battle in only one scenario: if Team Pacquiao ignores its principles.
            In geo-politics, such ploys have reared its ugly head thousands of times. Responses have been different, according to the leadership disposition of the opposing party. During the Cold War, the American leadership considered Soviet invasion on the free section of Berlin as an attack by Soviet Russia on the United States. Particularly, the American military was weary of repeating the mistake of appeasement, such as the toleration of Adolf Hitler and **** Germany. Appeasing a bully leads to ever increasing demands, making war the only viable and rationale option. Thus, Cold War policy against the red Soviets became: Nip the bud. Stand your ground. If you attack Berlin or South Korea, we reserve the right to repel your forces by way of nuclear weapons (which could be fired from battlefield artillery).
            A G a m e o f R I S K >
            The fight may be construed as "jeopardized" so that if, and when, an announcement does take place, excitement is enhanced. Camp Mayweather after all participates in pay-per-view revenues. They practice brazen and bold moves. The maneuver came from a twisted intent. The "dark side of the force."
            When a man is aware that the world hates him, he makes the world hate him even more. He is able to affect the masses' temperament by pressing buttons. Predictable reactions ensue. Pavlov's dog wags its tail and salivates for more dog treats. The circus grows in circumference. When hate is built up, the drama of the clash is heightened. The method by which he chose to steer the process is straight from the pages of professional wrestling's promotional strategem. Clowns view concessions as weakness and personal turpitude. Frailty in character is catalyst for further provocation. You get pushed, until you get pushed to the brink. Like in a schoolyard. The clown succeeds.
            P r i n c i p l e s M a t t e r >
            A short story. I observed the late Senator Raul Roco up close, being able to see his interactions with people, in public and private. His speeches were majestic - a man of humble roots, yet armed with towering talent. More meaningfully, an authentic character and decent man meant his words. Corresponding actions followed. A party attempted to persuade the senator to cease exposing suspected drug dealers in highly visible congressional hearings. Roco got mad, and quickly brushed aside the appeals. To impede actions that facilitated the betterment of his country went against his principles. Most would consider backing out, for fear of danger, or for paltry kickbacks - at the expense of national welfare. Raul Roco (in one speech), in recalling ancient Greek mythology, extolled the audience to conquer the fears that (tragically) resided in their hearts; of the fear of success . . .
            Principles matter. If you act against your own principles, even if you win . . . you lose. Character and integrity matter for a lifetime. If the above intent is true, seeking another opponent - as Bob Arum suggests - would be an appropriate way to go. Or retirement. Manny Pacquiao is pursuing next level goals in life, in the worthy realm of public service. If the team seeks another fight, perhaps the winner of Shane Mosley vs Andre Berto. Perhaps a third bout with Juan Manuel Marquez, as Freddie Roach suggested prior to the Miguel Cotto fight.
            "The wicked flee when no man pursueth," states the bible. Journalists, advisors, promoters, etc., do not matter here. Only one man does, in the face of such response. We get to see what kind of leader Pacquiao is - before the real and elevated tests of public policy and international affairs. Principles and integrity are always on the line. Alignment with higher truths can mark legacy as unblemished and honorable. Missteps in response can degrade it to the level of buffoons. Welcome to big time politico. For the proposed showdown, money is motivation for most. The marketplace only looks at value. The calculus is derived from cash accounting and accruals. But the world of the seen comes from the unseen. Jefferson offers an appropriate (and timeless) guide: "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." And aptly, so does former U.S. president Dwight Eisenhower: "A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."

            http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-4...nciples-matter
            lady stan you a delusional

            jaf = just a fact

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              if floyd wins fair and square after he fights pac why shouldnt he be given the props if he is the better fighter for the night?

              you're counting chickens before they're hatched.

              pun intended for floyd and the TS.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Lady Fan
                Oh brother! May we have some sanity on Mayweather, Jr. vs. Pacquiao please?

                December 23, 2:14 AMDallas Boxing ExaminerMatt Stolow

                Golden Boy Promotions, Inc. wanted "The Fight" in Las Vegas, Nevada so much, and now it wants the state to change its rules for its fighter, Floyd Mayweather, Jr., for just this one fight? When will this end? I'm personally tired of this act.

                I don't think anyone will get the attention of Golden Boy until we start dangling their ticket allotment in front of their faces. Then we'll see them sweat. Maybe even donate its fee from Mayweather Promotions to a charity. I know a non-profit group in need of funds!

                It's the US Anti-Doping Agency! Have you seen the American Olympic boxing talent they have been cranking out over the past few Olympiads? This isn't 1976 Montreal my friends.

                I trust the Nevada State Athletic Commission can take care of its business, as it has all these many years and it doesn't need help from Golden Boy Promotions or anyone else.

                In typical Bob Arum fashion he has said "The Fight" is off. What a drama queen! I think he's negotiable.

                Wednesday morning, December 23, 2009 in America we are 79 days out from March 13, 2010. Ali-Frazier "The Fight of the Century" was pulled off in 67 days. Here's my story on it at 98 days out.
                http://www.examiner.com/x-11372-Dallas-Boxing-Examiner~y2009m12d7-Mayweather-vs-Pacquiao-has-98-days-Ali-vs-Frazier-I-was-67-days
                Golden Boy and Richard Schaefer continue to embarrass boxing.
                First they refused to fully hear out the bid of Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and virtually blew any chance of having Mayweather, Jr. vs. Pacquiao on the world's biggest stage (100,000 capacity) that has already won bids for a Super Bowl, NBA All Star Game and NCAA Final Four for a 16,200 seat arena. The sports world officials are laughing.
                Second, he has now brought drug issues to the table before boxing's biggest event.
                Mayweather, Jr.'s last fight is still steeped in controversy because of Golden Boy playing fast and loose with the rules regarding their fighter, Mayweather, Jr., coming in two pounds overweight and making a mockery of the system because they wouldn't announce the maximum weights allowed through the promotion and not until the weigh in. That was preposterous.

                Manny Pacquiao is complying with the rules that are on the books. They were the same as his past 10 fights in Nevada. That's good enough for me.

                Maybe the United States Anti- Doping Agency is looking for gratuitous publicity and didn't realize where Golden Boy was taking them.

                In other news, Golden Boy legally petitioned the Nevada State Athletic Commission for the right to promote the fight in the state on either March 13, 2010 or May 1, 2010.

                There were plenty of big fights in Nevada before Golden Boy came on the scene and there will be plenty afterwards.

                I would hate to lose this one. I don't think we are at that point yet but the date is getting ominous.


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                lady stan you a delusional

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Lady Fan
                  Roach BLASTS Mayweathers - "Mayweather is a coward!"


                  December 22nd, 2009

                  Brad Cooney

                  8CountNews contacted Freddie Roach to get his thoughts on the recent reports of Manny Pacquiao's refusal to give blood the day before the scheduled fight with Floyd Mayweather. Roach says that he is the one advising Manny not to give the blood the day before the fight. Roach blasts the Mayweather's calling them cowards, and scared. Check out what else Freddie Roach had to say in this exclusive 8CN interview.

                  8CN - Freddie, todays headlines all say that Manny Pacquiao is refusing to give blood the day before the fight. What is your response?

                  FR - Well the sanctioning bodies and the state commissions run the boxing world, not Floyd Mayweather. Who is this guy to tell us that we have to have blood tests, or urine tests, or any tests? He's just looking for a way out of the fight. He is scared, and he's just afraid that he's going to get his ass kicked. We don't work for Floyd Mayweather. We fight for the state commission, since when does the fighter make up the rules?

                  8CN - To play devils advocate, Floyd's people firmly believe that Manny is taking steroids. Why not just take the test and prove them wrong?

                  FR - So, what if I think Mayweather is taking steroids too?, so does that mean I go out and change the rules in boxing? This guy isn't going to walk all over us, he's not railroading us. This is bull****, we will go by the rules of the commission, and that's it. We'll go on to other things, and he can make no money fighting some bum. My fighter is clean, I have trouble giving Manny protein shakes and vitamins, let alone steroids. We will pass the drug test, because my fighter is clean.

                  8CN - Is it Manny refusing to take the blood test or is it someone deciding for him?

                  FR - It's me, I am not going to let my fighter give blood a day before the fight.

                  8CN - What can giving blood a day before a fight do to a fighter?

                  FR - It's just like having sex before a fight. You're not supposed to have sex before a fight, it makes you weak. If you mentally think that, it will. When Manny gives blood it takes him 3 or 4 days to recover from it. I am not going to have my fighter going into a fight feeling weak and not sure of himself.

                  8CN - Is it true that Manny never wanted to give blood the day before any of his fights?

                  FR - We will never do it a day before a fight. We never flunked a urine test, and there is no reason to think my fighter is dirty. We have passed every test ever given to us. We go by the commission rules, not no rule Mayweather puts out there.

                  8CN - So it's fair to say that the ball is completely in Mayweathers court now, you guys are not budging?

                  FR - Yes it's fair to say that. If Floyd wants to fight us, then step up and fight us. If you want Manny to take a blood test after the fight, no problem, but not a day before.

                  8CN - Wouldn't a blood test the day after the fight be the same as a test a day before? I mean if Manny was taking steroids, wouldn't the test the day after the fight show the same thing as it would the day before?

                  FR - Yes agreed. A urine test will show the same thing too,but if they want a blood test the day after the fight, I have no problem with that. I will not have my guy giving blood a day before the fight, that will make him weak. Why is Floyd Mayweather dictating what we do in life? It's crazy... he's a coward and he's afraid to fight us and that is all there is to it.

                  8CN - If this fight gets scratched, what's next?

                  FR - We go up and get Yuri Foreman's title. We will go up one more weight division, just for you Floyd!



                  http://www.8countnews.com/news/125/A...009-12-22.html
                  The much anticipated clash between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao is in doubt due to a dispute over drug testing.

                  Golden Boy Promotions and Mayweather Promotions have issued a statement claiming that Pacquiao's refusal to take a blood test 30 days before the March bout meant the showdown was now "in jeopardy".

                  Golden Boy chief executive Richard Schaefer said: "Todd (Top Rank president Todd duBoef) told me that Pacquiao has difficulty with taking blood and doesn't want to do it so close to the fight.

                  "He, Pacquiao, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight.

                  "It is unfortunate to hear this from Manny Pacquiao's representatives, particularly since, as of today, both parties had worked out all other issues related to this fight.

                  "Team Mayweather is certainly surprised that an elite athlete like Manny Pacquiao would refuse drug testing procedures which Floyd has already agreed to and have been agreed to by many other top athletes such as Lance Armstrong, and Olympians Michael Phelps, LeBron James and Kobe Bryant."

                  Mayweather has insisted that Pacquiao's failure to accept the Olympic-style testing has left him questioning the possible "fairness" of the fight.

                  "I understand Pacquiao not liking having his blood taken, because frankly I don't know anyone who really does," said Mayweather.

                  "But in a fight of this magnitude, I think it is our responsibility to subject ourselves to sportsmanship at the highest level.

                  "I have already agreed to the testing and it is a shame that he is not willing to do the same.

                  "It leaves me with great doubt as to the level of fairness I would be facing in the ring that night."

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Killa_Kali
                    if floyd wins fair and square after he fights pac why shouldnt he be given the props if he is the better fighter for the night?

                    you're counting chickens before they're hatched.

                    pun intended for floyd and the TS.
                    Im not hating dude. It was a serious question. I honestly wanted to know your thoughts. Im not saying that Floyd wins. I just wanted to know what you guys would think if it played out that way. Would you feel that he was mentaly of physicaly affected by it and that caused him to lose or had an outcome in the fight

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DLT
                      Serious question, not trolling. What if Pac agrees to the test, passes the test, but Floyd wins the fight? Would you feel like those test had something to do with it, wether it be physical or mental?
                      Yes.........I believe that Pac will definitely lose the fight if he agrees to a blood test within TWO days before the fight. Pac is very superstitious and this will affect him in a big way!!

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