Lets talk about Alex Ariza here.

[McAlister]

so ariza says take this...and manny's like ok **** it...i'm sure manny knows about everything he puts in his body

I kno thats why i say Ariza jus covering for him, by sayin he dont kno what he takes.....

[onedream722]

no u just don't give illegal substances to anyone...a lot of bad side affects can happen...and ariza would be held fully liable if that happened without pac's consent...everything is discussed before hand

[Doctor_Tenma]

I kno thats why i say Ariza jus covering for him, by sayin he dont kno what he takes.....

I believe this also. Just came to this conclusion.


*Whispers*

It's more friendlier

[PensionKiller]

How can you set dates on random tests? That's what I'd like to know.

Because you have to assume a random test can be done 1 day before a fight because it is random

[Killa_Kali]

dogs barking up the wrong tree again.

teri tom, not ariza, decides what goes into pac's body.

[Left Hook Tua]

Ariza said that only he had knowledge of what goes into Pacquiao's body, not Pacquiao but himself. Anyone here think that Ariza revealed to Roach/ Pacquiao something that made the 2 change their minds about the blood testing? I mean keep in mind, Roach and Pacquiao didn't have an issue with testing untill recently. Even Richard Schaefer said that Arum went public on not having an issue with the testing. Now all of a sudden, things have changed. Anyone come to the conclusion that Ariza probably has something to do with this?

pacquiao and roach didn't change their minds about the testing.

they just thought it was gonna be a test in training camp and one after the fight.

what they're arguing is the amount of tests and when.

[Robert Mugabe]

Ariza said that only he had knowledge of what goes into Pacquiao's body, not Pacquiao but himself. Anyone here think that Ariza revealed to Roach/ Pacquiao something that made the 2 change their minds about the blood testing? I mean keep in mind, Roach and Pacquiao didn't have an issue with testing untill recently. Even Richard Schaefer said that Arum went public on not having an issue with the testing. Now all of a sudden, things have changed. Anyone come to the conclusion that Ariza probably has something to do with this?

That's just plain ****** (for Ariza to make such childish claims),Pacquiao is willingly and knowingly dopping.Everyone in his team knows and even ARum is well aware.This is big business and that's why Ariza is in that team.@ such a high level,no one does things without consulting.actually the biggest culprit is Roach,he knows who can cheat and who cant,he put Manny in touch with Ariza for the sole purpose of doping.Manny's just as guilty because he agreed to do that.

Ariza's excuse is lame

[Left Hook Tua]

How can you set dates on random tests? That's what I'd like to know.

they're not trying to set dates.

they're trying to say not before the fight.

roach doesn't want one the week of the fight (though he did state that he's willing to do one 3 days before the fight)

i don't know how long it takes to clear from your system but my guess is most takes a week at least.

why not just say random testing at any time except the week of the fight? they're gonna do an after fight one anyway.

[Robert Mugabe]

pacquiao and roach didn't change their minds about the testing.

they just thought it was gonna be a test in training camp and one after the fight.

what they're arguing is the amount of tests and when.

Which is the whole reason why tests are done.Roach simply doesnt want to get caught that's why he wants the testing before training and after the fight.He doesnt mind getting caught after the fight for obvious reasons,they will have made the money and only a part of Manny's purse will have been with held.

[Left Hook Tua]

That's just plain ****** (for Ariza to make such childish claims),Pacquiao is willingly and knowingly dopping.Everyone in his team knows and even ARum is well aware.This is big business and that's why Ariza is in that team.@ such a high level,no one does things without consulting.actually the biggest culprit is Roach,he knows who can cheat and who cant,he put Manny in touch with Ariza for the sole purpose of doping.Manny's just as guilty because he agreed to do that.

Ariza's excuse is lame

ariza didn't come on board 'til last year.

only difference i see in pacquiao is technique.