As of now, do you rate Mosley as an ATG?

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  • hookoutofhell
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    #11
    Originally posted by whoelsebutjames
    Mosely is def an ATG.

    But he only has himself to blame why this is left to debate as far as how his career has been managed. But hindsight is clear sight
    yeah good point man, imo jmm and ssm are two of my favourite fighters but both of them have made decisions that they look back on and regret.

    ssm took on two guys who everyone else was staying away from for a reason. its just unfortunate that he found out it out the hard way. ssm has beat mayorga, vargas, prime DLH (x2), margarito and collazo that makes him a nailed on HOF but if he hadn't got the losses to VF and WW then he could sail into the top 50 imo (even with the cotto loss).

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    • hammerhiem
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      #12
      I have the top 50 as ATG's and he squeezes in just about.

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      • Mugwump
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        #13
        I don't go in for these top-something-or-other lists - mainly because I find such impossible to attempt without going around in endless circles scribbling down names and then erasing them. But SSM is easily one of the best fighters I've seen in the last 25 years. As far as attributes go he pretty much has them all. He's an excellent technician who can box beautifully when he needs to. Though he can also go on the offensive with some serious pop in either hand, as was evidenced in the Margarito fight. To use a worn out phrase - he's the complete fighter.

        But most of all, he has the heart and mind of a champion. Even toward the twilight of his career he's prepared to go in with the best fighters and roll them over. He just wants to win it more than the other guy.

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        • Dambala
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          #14
          Yes he is. He's been consistent during his whole career, had a great run from LW to JrMW, has a great resume and all the skills, he's willing to fight anyone.

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          • Allucard
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            #15
            Originally posted by boxerca
            Simple question.
            Hell if you rate Calzaghe as an HoFer then yes! But in a perfect world no, he's a gatekeeper though. ATG material go up in weight more than Mosley was able to successfully. I think Oscar has a better resume.

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            • bojangles1987
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              #16
              It shouldn't be a question, but Mosley mismanaged his career so much it is a question. Just look at what the guy did in the ring and what a talent he was and he is an ATG.

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              • Zarco
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                #17
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                I think he is borderline ATG LW. But, he is not in my top 100 all time P4P. And, I only consider top 50 ATG anyways so the answer is not. But, if he beats Berto, Pac, Floyd, and P-Will. You could make an argument of him belonging in the top 50
                your fucking with us right?

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                • dc6112
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                  #18
                  ATG at Lightweight, as in top 20, even top 10 , yes. ATG as in Top 25, top 30, even top 50 p4p of all time, no.

                  But what do I know, I like Kelly Pavlik

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                  • Iceta
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                    #19
                    I like Mosley, and I don't want to say he isn't. But I think the best thing to do is let his career come to a conclusion before making this call.

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