Marvin Hagler vs Bernard Hopkins: Who was the better middleweight?

**The_Demon** · 12-22-2009, 08:42 AM

hagler was the better MW
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**dans** · 12-22-2009, 08:44 AM

Hagler was clearly better offensively. I think Bernard's defense gives anyone problems, but overall Hagler was better.

**Rabbit ♠** · 12-22-2009, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by british_fan

hagler was the better MW
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Agree, but why? BHop is def one of the best MW of all time.

**The_Demon** · 12-22-2009, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by Rabbit-Punches

Agree, but why? BHop is def one of the best MW of all time.

ye hes definitly top 5 more due too how many guys he beat at MW and not who he beat

hagler had a brilliant offence and i think that would over-come bhops great defence,if it got rough and dirty i dont think hagler would be deterred like most of bhops opponents

**oaklandstephen** · 12-22-2009, 08:50 AM

id have to say bhop

**dans** · 12-22-2009, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by Rabbit-Punches

Agree, but why? BHop is def one of the best MW of all time.

Hagler just had this "refuse to be denied" mentality that's rare. Hopkins has more of a "I deserve it" mentality sometimes. You see it come out in fights like Calzaghe. He just thinks he deserves wins for being Hopkins and playing good D, Hagler forced the issue more.

**boxerca** · 12-22-2009, 08:51 AM

I would say Hagler was the better middleweight. They both have nearly equal great wins, but Hagler beat one of the hardest punchers P4P in Thomas Hearns and one of the, regarded by many, greatest P4P fighters of all-time in Roberto Duran. Those cast a shadow over Hopkins' wins over De La Hoya and Trinidad.

In a head to head matchup, I would choose Hagler to win a decision. Hopkins would be too tough and has too much of a great chin to be knocked out. The same for Hagler.

**Sir Tom Jones** · 12-22-2009, 08:54 AM

Hagler wins this.

**Rabbit ♠** · 12-22-2009, 08:55 AM

Originally posted by dans01234

Hagler just had this "refuse to be denied" mentality that's rare. Hopkins has more of a "I deserve it" mentality sometimes. You see it come out in fights like Calzaghe. He just thinks he deserves wins for being Hopkins and playing good D, Hagler forced the issue more.

Good points and I agree. Hagler was a warrior. I hate to use that term but he was. IMO I think he should have come out the best out of SRL, Hearns, and Duran (though Duran is my favorite)... I think he was robbed in the SRL fight...

Marvin Hagler vs Bernard Hopkins: Who was the better middleweight?