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khan is a good bet for a sparring partnrr and maybe berto but i dont think bradley will be sparring with pacman
i remember in an interview once when bradley was talking about sparring/training etc and he said he never sparred with fighters who he might be getting in the ring with. just one of those things i guess.
i can see joan guzman coming in to work with roach i think he has an outside chance. maybe berto but i think when ssm is finished with him, berto is not going to have much left.
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just like pac is impossible to emulate, so is mayweather niether camp is going to find someone with those respective styles,roach can talk all his psychological crap he aint going to find someone that fights like mayweather same thing goes for camp mayweather, the only thing they can do is train hard and hope for the best theyre both ****ed in that respect.
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post1) pac isn't dlh
2) anyone can get on their bike and run
3) its their job to give pac good sparring
4) never in 1000 years could floyd ever KO pac, never
5) floyd = p4p #2.
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pac hasnt beat anyone of mayweathers caliber, but mayweather has beat fighters of pacyows caliber, castillo,corrales, and jmm,just to name a few.
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Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Postoh god you honestley cant believe that! didnt gayweather ko hatton a year or two before pacman? thats pacs most famous win, your seriousley underestimating gayweather, he has THE STYLE thats already beat pacman, cotton was doing it in the first round,mayweather can do that for 12, and no not anybody can get on their bike and run!pacman is a devastating puncher but gayweather has more tools and skills by and far!! i hate gayweather but ******* fans are worse all of their boxing knowledge begins and ends with pacyow no respect for the sport before or after pacyow, im pulling for mayweather on this one i want *******s to eat all their words im tired of hearing yalls ****** crap!pacyow doesnt hit much harder than mayweather the only reason people tjhink mayweather isnt as hard a puncher and the only reason he doesnt have more kos is his saftey first style! if he took risks like pacyow hed have a lot more kos! 40 have tried 40 have failed,jab right hand and movement beats pacyow and pac is no body puncher he cant do no castillo hes a headhunter no more it wont work look for a mayweather unanimous decision split decision for mayweather if pacyow is atop of his game .
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post1) pac isn't dlh
2) anyone can get on their bike and run
3) its their job to give pac good sparring
4) never in 1000 years could floyd ever KO pac, never
5) floyd = p4p #2.
2.wont have a reach advantage over gayweather like delahoya did. 3. isnt 10 years removed from his prime like delahoya was or is which will be pacs only advantage if u can call it that since mayweather is in his prime too. its nobodys job to give anyone good sparring unless they choose to do so., u should know by now pacs weaknesses he struggles mightily with good boxers,i mean he lost to morales who was waaay shot and jmm well mayweather is faster, more elusive and a pure boxer unlike those guys that would mix it up a little, i would sooo not talk **** if i were a ******* not in this fight! has all the making of a big loss for pacyow maybe not a ko but certainly a decision loss for sure , the style negates anything pacman can do. pac does well with guys that just stand their and are not in their prime or are coming off devastating losses and with guys that are natural left handers like delahoya,hatton, and cotto whom all lacked good right hands! natural lefties fighting conventional.pac has a good punch but that wont be enuff
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The Hoya that Roach trained vs Mayweather beats Pac, especially at 154.
Berto and Khan wont help with Mayweather. Mosley is the only guy I've seen to imulate Mayweather better than anyone else and Mosley wants to fight Pac/May not sparr.
Mayweather vs Pac winner fights Mosley. 2010 could end with just those 2 fights and boxing is back on top IMO.
As much as I like Mayweather I could easily see him beat Pac and claim the greatiest (again) and "retire" (again).
I can only hope this doesnt happen. He better stick to the list or something simular to the list with Mosley's name at the top with Berto as the back up and a rematch with Pac as well (for cash money sake).
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I mean, it is as plain as day. I like Pacquiao but it seems that
he is not ready for Mayweather JR and that's not me being bias,
it's just how it is according to Freddie Roach. All the fighters he
wants to use for sparring only have speed and not the defense,
counter punching ability and footwork Floyd will use to baffle
Pacquiao. Should be an entertaining fight but I can see Floyd beating Pac because of his safety first style. Pacquiao offensive strength comes from his fighters engaging him and leaving themselves open, something Floyd won't do so Pac will have to figure a way to get Floyd to fight his fight which Floyd hardly never does with any fighter.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI mean, it is as plain as day. I like Pacquiao but it seems that
he is not ready for Mayweather JR and that's not me being bias,
it's just how it is according to Freddie Roach. All the fighters he
wants to use for sparring only have speed and not the defense,
counter punching ability and footwork Floyd will use to baffle
Pacquiao. Should be an entertaining fight but I can see Floyd beating Pac because of his safety first style. Pacquiao offensive strength comes from his fighters engaging him and leaving themselves open, something Floyd won't do so Pac will have to figure a way to get Floyd to fight his fight which Floyd hardly never does with any fighter.
Sad thing is when and if Mayweather beats Pac it will be considered an over rated fight with Mayweather cherry picking again. "They" will say Pac wasnt the same fighter at 147 and Mayweather cheated in one way or another. In the end Mayweather wont get credit for the win. It will be Pacs name down played due to a loss to Mayweather.
At the end of the night a lot of people will be dissapointed. As Roach has explained this wont be an exciting fight or at least not to the casual fan.
IMO you will see a GREAT boxing match of wits and smarts. Yet some seem to get very confused and mix up boxing with running. Call it what you want but boxing is all about hitting and not getting hit. Mayweather has proven to be great at this. A war is not expected bewteen these two.
Pac and Roach are smart enough to know this. Fighting Mayweather's fight is also a bad idea. In the end I just hope its a good entertaining fight and not another Mayweather JMM fight (frowned apon and forggton). Which IMO is what everyone will come to agree with once its over and Pacs hand isnt raised. On the flip side if Mayweather loses its the greatiest fight of all time.... sad but true.
Roach knows whats up and will prepare Pac to the best of his ability. Again, I feel he will fail vs Mayweather. Persional issues might cloud his training as well, who knows.
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