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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” – Freewheeling Fighting Awards 09, Part 1

    by David P. Greisman - The attraction of boxing, beyond the action and drama of sanctioned violence, is what this Sweet Science says about life.

    There are no advantages for those that come from money and social class. Success comes to those with discipline, those whose hard work molds their athleticism, power and skills into a pugilistic product.

    There will be triumphs, times of celebration. There will be defeats, moments for commiseration.

    Life is about what we do to keep winning. Life is about how we try to bounce back from losses.

    In 2009, those losses were heartbreaking and all too frequent.

    Death happens. It is one of those life lessons. Every year, we say goodbye to numerous names, be they boxers, trainers, managers, or writers, be they those who were in the forefront, those who never found fame, or those whose contributions came in the periphery but who are missed nonetheless.

    This year, we bid so many premature farewells – to fallen fighters who suffered fatal injuries in the ring (Benjamin Flores, Marco Nazareth and Francisco Rodriguez, to name a few); to former fan favorites whose retirements ended abruptly and astonishingly in what have been ruled suicides (Alexis Arguello, Arturo Gatti); to champions in the ring (Vernon Forrest) and outside of it (HBO employee Arthur Curry).

    We must take consolation in the idea that life is cyclical. Rodriguez, in death, had his organs donated to others. Vernon Forrest, through his charitable works, provided assistance for the developmentally disabled. [Click Here To Read More]
  • Silencers
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    A not talked about robbery this year was Chop Chop Corley's recent 'loss' to Fariz Kazimov in Russia, Chop Chop won at least 8 rounds IMO and had a clear knockdown late in the fight that the referee didn't call, the referee warned Kazimov 10 times or something for low blows and head butts but refused to take points away. Chop Chop ended up losing a SD.

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    • snake
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      "There are no advantages for those that come from money and social class." Boxing needs to get past this snotty attitude. That is like saying there are no advantages to joining the Armed Forces if you are middle class. Get real.

      The advantages to a person's personal life are tremendous in boxing, from how you carry yourself to attitude to the drive for success to overcoming challenges you never thought you could.

      One reason MMA has grown popular is that it's fighters are from all walks of life, and it does not pander to the thug side of life.

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      • MidnightSpecial
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        #4
        Originally posted by snake
        "There are no advantages for those that come from money and social class." Boxing needs to get past this snotty attitude. That is like saying there are no advantages to joining the Armed Forces if you are middle class. Get real.

        The advantages to a person's personal life are tremendous in boxing, from how you carry yourself to attitude to the drive for success to overcoming challenges you never thought you could.

        One reason MMA has grown popular is that it's fighters are from all walks of life, and it does not pander to the thug side of life.
        I agree. I dont know about the ufc part though.

        All boxers fight for their lives and their family. Any man is dangerous with those motives

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        • Pullcounter
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          Originally posted by snake
          "There are no advantages for those that come from money and social class." Boxing needs to get past this snotty attitude. That is like saying there are no advantages to joining the Armed Forces if you are middle class. Get real.

          The advantages to a person's personal life are tremendous in boxing, from how you carry yourself to attitude to the drive for success to overcoming challenges you never thought you could.

          One reason MMA has grown popular is that it's fighters are from all walks of life, and it does not pander to the thug side of life.
          I disagree... once a boxer gets rich, they lose focus and discipline. if a boxer starts out rich, there's no reason to box, there's no hunger.

          ufc fighters are always hunger because dana white keeps most of the money

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          • MindBat
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            Great article by Greisman. Funny stuff.

            I'm surprised there was no mention about the the most blatantly ridiculous scoring of a fight: 118-112 at Diaz-Malignaggi 1.

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            • jtiger78
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              Adrea Dirrell was robbed also and paul williams needs to get an Overrated award!!!!

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              • jtiger78
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                Originally posted by USA_Pugilist
                I agree. I dont know about the ufc part though.

                All boxers fight for their lives and their family. Any man is dangerous with those motives
                DILLA ALL DAY!!!!!! and Madlib!

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                • Mr. David
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Silencers
                  A not talked about robbery this year was Chop Chop Corley's recent 'loss' to Fariz Kazimov in Russia, Chop Chop won at least 8 rounds IMO and had a clear knockdown late in the fight that the referee didn't call, the referee warned Kazimov 10 times or something for low blows and head butts but refused to take points away. Chop Chop ended up losing a SD.
                  Didn't see it, so it didn't make the list. But Valdez was especially bad because there wasn't even an explanation -- it was just taken away from him right in front of him.

                  Originally posted by snake
                  "There are no advantages for those that come from money and social class." Boxing needs to get past this snotty attitude. That is like saying there are no advantages to joining the Armed Forces if you are middle class. Get real.

                  The advantages to a person's personal life are tremendous in boxing, from how you carry yourself to attitude to the drive for success to overcoming challenges you never thought you could.

                  One reason MMA has grown popular is that it's fighters are from all walks of life, and it does not pander to the thug side of life.
                  Yes, someone who is financially comfortable can put in more time in training camp, but those that come from money and social class are by no means guaranteed success. There's an extra level of dedication for those who are, in a way, fighting for their lives.

                  Originally posted by MindBat
                  Great article by Greisman. Funny stuff.

                  I'm surprised there was no mention about the the most blatantly ridiculous scoring of a fight: 118-112 at Diaz-Malignaggi 1.
                  Thanks for the good words.

                  I mentioned bad scorecards, but if I was to get into every bad scorecard this year, and there were plenty, I'd have done 3,000 words just on that alone

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                  • rawr
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                    #10
                    great article.

                    didn't know there were any jay-dee boxing fans in the 'scene. but madlib? can't mess with him.

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