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  • Pullcounter
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    #41
    Originally posted by Pacdbest
    I watch it again. Valero got hit Flush to the chin by Velasquez, Valero feels it but he seems to have a decent chin. Valero is not as quick as Manny, but the Power is the real deal. I think he has the Chance to KO Barrera & MOrales too.

    I hope the three Mexican Great give Valero a Chance to Prove his worth. JMM could beat Valero's style. But I want Pac to be the 1st to KO JMM. So here's my Plan for Valero if i am his manager;

    KO Demarco, then try to get his US License back.

    Next will be nate Campbell in the undercard of Pac-PBF if possible. This will spectacular KO reel.

    He can call Pac just to get attention but pac will take a Break after He KO PBF, he'll be busy with Elections.

    This will be the Time we can make the Valero-Morales or MAB. JMM will be busy with hatton. MAB wants his last fight & EM looking for Comeback fight.

    After Valero beat a Legend, He can move up to 140 & take Bradley, Maidana, Khan or Ortiz. Maidana's the easiest to make but that will be a 50-50 fight. Khan & Ortiz were Chinny, I doubt their handle will be willing to make a Valero fight. Bradley will take that fight, It will be tough but Valero KOing bradley will be impressive.

    Pac will Probably comeback with Mosley or a PBF rematch if PBF happens to survive 12 rds with pac in the 1st fight. Who's next for Pac after Mosley & PBF?? This will be the time to take some Younger Challenger either at 140-147. Whoever comes out as the top Guy next to Pac at 140-147 will be the next one for Pac. I hope it's Valero. it will be an intriguing fight for Pac. I lost appetite for Pwill, I thought he lost Clearly in his last fight.
    nah, if i'm arum and I'm trying to build up a pac/valero fight as soon as possible, I do this:

    fights at 135 lbs: katsidis, jmm

    fights at 140 lbs: campbell, urango

    fights at 147 lbs: judah

    next fight would be pac....

    But honestly, pac will be out of the game by the time valero gets big enough. the only fight I see happening after march 13 is pac/pbf rematch or a fight w/ mosley.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      nah, if i'm arum and I'm trying to build up a pac/valero fight as soon as possible, I do this:

      fights at 135 lbs: katsidis, jmm

      fights at 140 lbs: campbell, urango

      fights at 147 lbs: judah

      next fight would be pac....

      But honestly, pac will be out of the game by the time valero gets big enough. the only fight I see happening after march 13 is pac/pbf rematch or a fight w/ mosley.
      Your Plan will be Disaster from the start.
      You got JMM right away!!! You know that Valero is tailormade for the likes of JMM. Valero can't KO Urango. But the Judah fight I like!! It will be spectacular Chicken dance.

      Valero Knocking the one I listed will make Valero a star!!! Just the right moment to entice Pac for a Superfight.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Pacdbest
        Your Plan will be Disaster from the start.
        You got JMM right away!!! You know that Valero is tailormade for the likes of JMM. Valero can't KO Urango. But the Judah fight I like!! It will be spectacular Chicken dance.

        Valero Knocking the one I listed will make Valero a star!!! Just the right moment to entice Pac for a Superfight.
        if valero can't get past jmm, he might as well not apply for the pac sweepstakes. valero needs the jmm fight early and at 135 lbs to get more exposure. Valero has to make noise asap to get in the runnings for a pac fight. then a fight w/ nate as a tune up at 140 lbs and then urango for a title.

        urango is the easiest of the 140 lbs titlists to beat. c'mon, he's slow as ****.

        judah is a no brainer. if you pay him he will fight.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          if valero can't get past jmm, he might as well not apply for the pac sweepstakes. valero needs the jmm fight early and at 135 lbs to get more exposure. Valero has to make noise asap to get in the runnings for a pac fight. then a fight w/ nate as a tune up at 140 lbs and then urango for a title.

          urango is the easiest of the 140 lbs titlists to beat. c'mon, he's slow as ****.

          judah is a no brainer. if you pay him he will fight.
          Urango has a good Chin I doubt Valero can KO him, We want to see Pac-Valero. Valero has to come with the perfect KO record for this fight to get the Big Hype.

          We already saw Pac_JMM 2 times. I don't want JMM to ruin Pac-Valero. Let JMM wait till Pac KO Valero.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            if valero can't get past jmm, he might as well not apply for the pac sweepstakes. valero needs the jmm fight early and at 135 lbs to get more exposure. Valero has to make noise asap to get in the runnings for a pac fight. then a fight w/ nate as a tune up at 140 lbs and then urango for a title.

            urango is the easiest of the 140 lbs titlists to beat. c'mon, he's slow as ****.

            judah is a no brainer. if you pay him he will fight.
            JMM is Valero's shortest route to more big money fights. If he can destroy JMM quickly that would make a big statement since neither Pac nor Mayweather managed it. It's a moderate risk/high reward type deal and guaranteed to be entertaining for as long as it lasts. Starching Katsidis would be too easy for Valero. Michael can't avoid a left if his life depended on it.

            We have no idea how Valero will look at 140 since he's never fought there but if he does it should be against someone respected like Bradley.

            There was a time when I thought Valero would have a great chance of beating Pac at 130lbs because they both love to brawl but Manny has improved far beyond my expectations and would be too dangerous right now for Valero. When you have great speed, power and chin that is a hard combination to beat.

            With his all-out aggression and minimal defense style big punchers with good chins will pose the most problems for Valero's style of fighting. However, ff you don't possess excellent power and chin odds are Valero will get you out of there sooner or later in the fight.

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              #46
              wait until valero fights someone like katsidis. valero will get hit more times in round 1 than any of his entire fights whole duration.

              katsidis will pressure him from the opening bell like he has never had before. and nearly all of valero's opponents have had terrible ko win percentages. so he could afford to let his defence go.

              valero was lucky not to be ko'd as early as the 1st few seconds of rnd 2 against velazquez. he got caught with a great right hand, watch it and see.
              Last edited by buster007; 12-21-2009, 03:13 AM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by buster007
                wait until valero fights someone like katsidis. valero will get hit more times in round 1 than any of his entire fights whole duration.

                katsidis will pressure him from the opening bell like he has never had before. and nearly all of valero's opponents have had terrible ko win percentages. so he could afford to let his defence go.

                valero was lucky not to be ko'd as early as the 1st few seconds of rnd 2 against velazquez. he got caught with a great right hand, watch it and see.
                It will be a great moral victory for Katsidis if he can make it out of the first 2 rounds alive. It's a toss up between him and Hatton for who can block punches with their face more effectively.

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                • buster007
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                  #48
                  don't think so.

                  valero connected multiple flush powershots on this bloke every round but it still took 7 rounds to win the damn fight.

                  his power may look good against the lower fighters but against the top opposition it won't hold up as much.
                  Last edited by buster007; 12-21-2009, 03:40 AM.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by buster007
                    don't think so.

                    valero connected multiple flush powershots on this bloke every round but it still took 7 rounds to win the damn fight.

                    his power may look good against the lower fighters but against the top opposition it won't hold up as much.
                    It took Pacquiao the same amount of time so I guess he has no power as well. He also has 3 losses, 2 by KTFO so I guess Pac has a glass chin.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      if valero can't get past jmm, he might as well not apply for the pac sweepstakes. valero needs the jmm fight early and at 135 lbs to get more exposure. Valero has to make noise asap to get in the runnings for a pac fight. then a fight w/ nate as a tune up at 140 lbs and then urango for a title.

                      urango is the easiest of the 140 lbs titlists to beat. c'mon, he's slow as ****.

                      judah is a no brainer. if you pay him he will fight.
                      Katsidis, Juan Diaz, David Diaz. He needs to try his luck with some softer hitting straight forward conventional fighters. From there his team should gauge his ability. We don't know jack **** from this last fight. Honestly it looked like he just loads the left like a super punch over and over again trying to club you. However unlike when Pacquiao was more inclined to do it.. Valero's Monster punch isn't straight or quite as fast/accurate. I think the previous 3 fighters mentioned would still be suckers for it though.

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