Mayweather's 5 inch reach advantage?

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  • COACH WEBB
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    #31
    Originally posted by fountino
    So he can run into a str right?
    I said the exact same thing on page 2

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #32
      Pacquiao's head movement and foot speed should almost compensate for that. Hatton had Mayweather right where he wanted him, Zab was able to counter punch. Pacquiao can't do the same?

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      • renren40
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        #33
        Originally posted by pac oww
        What's stopping Floyd from jabbing and running all night? how does pac get around that?
        Pacquiao is neither slow or ******ed ....

        He's not a sitting duck ...

        He's been boxing for decades ...

        He will know what to do ..

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          #34
          Originally posted by pac oww
          hopefully roach comes up with a good plan.
          dude .. don't worry so much ...

          there's only so much planning one can do .. but you are right ...
          a good plan is beneficial ...

          the emphasis should be on more of the same ...
          more conditioning...more speed...more power
          more stamina.... and more angles

          and a really good sparring partner

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          • Kevin Jesus
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            #35
            Originally posted by -veteran420-
            yep... im praying that him and freddie come up with a plan for two things

            a) a way around the reach advantage
            b) a way to deal with Floyd tying up every time Pac gets in striking range

            these two must be resolved if they want a W
            I have never seen Floyd tying up when in danger.

            Judah, Corley, Castillo, DLH, Chavez, Augustus, N'Dou, Hatton, Baldomir...were all in a position were Floyd could have tied them up to escape punishment but instead he used head movement, jab to the body, counter left to the head or a little bit of slithering around to getaway. Judah got him in the most trouble imo and all Floyd did was cover up Winky style then walked down Judah for the rest of the fight.

            This is from what I have seen at least.

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              #36
              Originally posted by COACH WEBB
              I said the exact same thing on page 2
              It would be the right hook, not the straight right.... You throw a straight right while someone is moving to your right and you'll miss. Floyd only throws straight rights from a stationary position to catch a fighter coming in. A right hook would be better to catch someone who's moving at you from the rightside i.e. Pacquio KD Hatton with a right hook.

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                #37
                Originally posted by fountino
                Alot of people talk about what Zab was able to do, but they forget that Floyds plan was to let Zab get early and then drown him after rd5.... so he wont fight Pac the same way you can bet that.. Roach needs to see if he can get forbes to help out on the sparring
                You have to realize that although he's a 5 round fighter you have to use those 5 rounds and compare them to what Pacquiao can possibly do since they're both southpaws.

                How successful was Judah in those first 5 rounds vs Floyd? Judah was the bigger man atm and he was def more powerful than Floyd, I say this because a lot posters seem to think because Pacquiao is stronger(higher KO ratio than Floyd) that Pacquiao will KO Floyd easily, Pacquiao will not be the bigger man on fight night, he will not have the same reach as Floyd(Zab & Floyd have the same exact reach at 72" 183 CM), Pacquiao will not be the same height as Floyd which can always play a part if you know how to use your height as an advantage(Zab & Floyd are only half an inch apart in height).

                To have a chance against Floyd, you have to be the bigger man in every department ,height, reach, weight, and fight night weight and even then that doesn't promise a win against Floyd.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
                  It would be the right hook, not the straight right.... You throw a straight right while someone is moving to your right and you'll miss. Floyd only throws straight rights from a stationary position to catch a fighter coming in. A right hook would be better to catch someone who's moving at you from the rightside i.e. Pacquio KD Hatton with a right hook.
                  you sure about the bold...look at this video, start at about :12-:15, the straight right hand lands right on the button as Zab moved to Floyd's right. What also was effective (against a southpaw) was Floyd's right hand and a left hook..if you notice, even Lampley spoke about it during the commentary of this fight

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                  • ThePunchingBag
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by COACH WEBB
                    you sure about the bold...look at this video, start at about :12-:15, the straight right hand lands right on the button as Zab moved to Floyd's right. What also was effective (against a southpaw) was Floyd's right hand and a left hook..if you notice, even Lampley spoke about it during the commentary of this fight

                    Zab wasn't really moving to his right. He was flat footed and moving back. The problem with the way Floyd threw that straight right is if you examine it he lunges in when he throws it. This is characteristic of how he's forced to throw it against southpaws. Against orthodox fighters he doesn't need to lunge in. He throws it from a stationary position and then he either ties the opponent up or throws a left hook.

                    0:15 and 0:34 are some quick examples.

                    Last edited by ThePunchingBag; 12-17-2009, 06:59 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
                      I have never seen Floyd tying up when in danger.

                      Judah, Corley, Castillo, DLH, Chavez, Augustus, N'Dou, Hatton, Baldomir...were all in a position were Floyd could have tied them up to escape punishment but instead he used head movement, jab to the body, counter left to the head or a little bit of slithering around to getaway. Judah got him in the most trouble imo and all Floyd did was cover up Winky style then walked down Judah for the rest of the fight.

                      This is from what I have seen at least.
                      Floyd tied Hatton up often after his right hands. I wish he didn't have any hand problems because he'd let his hands go more often and we'd see even more from him.

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