Is Pavlik now grossly underrated on BS?

**Calilloyd** · 12-16-2009, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by Spray_resistant

......all because he lost one fight to a bigger man with much more experience than him at an un-natural fighting weight, and because he had a medical issue and was unable to obliterate PWill which after a week and a half ago I am certain he would......Lets keep in mind this is a guy who won his title in dominant fashion from a world class fighter and usually stops his opponents. I think he deserves a bit more respect than he gets on here, the hate gets a bit crazy and I just want to put things in perspective.

When he defends his belt against a real opponent he might get some respect. Right now he is not deserving. You can talk all you want to about what he would do to Paul Williams but he wasn't confident enough to find out. Period. And there is no way to spin that. He ducked out of that fight. How long is Pavlik going to base his reputation on the Taylor fight?

**Spray_resistant** · 12-16-2009, 04:06 AM

Originally posted by Calilloyd

When he defends his belt against a real opponent he might get some respect. Right now he is not deserving. You can talk all you want to about what he would do to Paul Williams but he wasn't confident enough to find out. Period. And there is no way to spin that. He ducked out of that fight. How long is Pavlik going to base his reputation on the Taylor fight?

He was willing to fight PWill after being medically cleared this week and their camp for whatever reason didn't want it.....so idk who is to blame he had a medical problem not his fault really.

**-EX-** · 12-16-2009, 04:13 AM

I don't underrate just think certain styles would be his kryptonite...

I think Paul would beat him but not dominate him...Paul would give Kelly moments since P. Will likes to trade and he isn't difficult to hit...

Pavlik needs some more punches...everything is a jab str8 right hand...or nothing too crafty

**Spray_resistant** · 12-16-2009, 04:18 AM

Originally posted by The_Executioner

I don't underrate just think certain styles would be his kryptonite...

I think Paul would beat him but not dominate him...Paul would give Kelly moments since P. Will likes to trade and he isn't difficult to hit...

Pavlik needs some more punches...everything is a jab str8 right hand...or nothing too crafty

I will agree he needs a better trainer and to do more than double the ****in jab.....still what I mean by my thread is that now he is a bum on here and a ***** according to alot of posters because of what happened with B-hop and his inactivity due to the staph infection.
That said I think he beats PWill because I doubt PWill hits hard enough to stop him and PWill needs to be in front of Pavlik to be effective. He is really 1 dimensional and can't fight any other way as he has proven again and again. Being in front of Pavlik falls into the power puncher game plan, if Martinez could seriously hurt him Pavlik surely can.

**Calilloyd** · 12-16-2009, 04:37 AM

Originally posted by Spray_resistant

He was willing to fight PWill after being medically cleared this week and their camp for whatever reason didn't want it.....so idk who is to blame he had a medical problem not his fault really.

That's what he says now but I don't buy that at all. It's convenient for him to say that now that he has a fight lined up so soon after pulling out of the Williams fight. He also contradicted himself by saying he didn't feel he was healed enough for this fight but was forced by the sanctioning body's threat to strip him. Either he was ready or he wasn't.

Is Pavlik now grossly underrated on BS?