Roach: No Blood Tests Near the fight

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i swear its like groundhog's day with these threads

[Chups]

Agree, and Roach is only makin this **** worse by not wanting to take blood tests, if he clean, why not take the tests? This would shut alot of people up once and for all!

He wants it but not close to the fight. This has already happened in the Morales fight and we all know what happened there. Pacquaio was slightly weakened by the blood test that was taken from him the day of the fight.

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Dude Baldomir was lineal welterweight champion.
Judah was former champion who many had predicted to beat Floyd pre Baldy.
Its easy to look back and criticize his opponents, because he has beaten all of them and for the most part, made it look easy.

If he had fought Mosley and make it look easy, what would people like you say?
Mosley was old and past his prime.
If he beat Marg and did it by shutout what would people like you say?
Marg was never a complete fighter he has no boxing skills.
Williams?
He was young and unproven.

You are determined to discredit Floyd regardless of his opposition.

Isn't that what happens everytime Pac beats his opponent?*****s are determined to discredit Pac regardless of his opposition.

Double Standard

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Its the same with Floyd?
Who gives a **** what you think about his resume?
Fact is he has never lost a fight, and you cannot say the same about Manny. Sure you can have problems with decisioning fighters but with the exception of the Castillo fights, Floyd has never really been in a close fight.

And Manny?Except for the marquez fights and the loss to Morales?

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Its the same with Floyd?
Who gives a **** what you think about his resume?

Likewise, who give s a **** what YOU say about his resume?

Fact is he has never lost a fight, and you cannot say the same about Manny.

Nope. I like it when fighters lose, it either makes them a better fighter or destroys their career. PS: Chavez Jr. has never lost a fight. Same with Calzaghe. Undefeated = overrated.

Sure you can have problems with decisioning fighters but with the exception of the Castillo fights, Floyd has never really been in a close fight.

I mean sure you can complain about a SD with Oscar but everyone who watched that fight knows it was a clear win for Floyd.

It wasn't all that clear, I know a ton of people who watched it live with me who thought it could have gone either way, some say Oscar won. When people say JMM beat Pacquiao, I'll say Oscar beat Mayweather just to be an ass like them.

Because one judge scored Dawson vs Johnson II 115-113 does that mean it was a close fight, cause it wasnt.

Not sure what this has to do with anything we're talking about.

If you honestly think Floyd, his resume and his preformances are not impressive than the reality of the situation is that you are a hater.

It's true. I hate Floyd's personality and I'd like to slap his gullible fans, but not his boxing technique, which I think is very good.

And I dont have time to argue with keyboard haters who try and diminish fighters accomplishments in the ring.

OK, don't argue then. I don't mind if you don't. There's no need to defend Floyd. I'm sorry for wasting your "time" which is obviously so precious to you.



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[Easy-E]

No, it isn't impressive at all.



Castillo: 12 years and 45 fights into a pro career. Had four KO losses on his record.
Castillo is a hall of fame fighter with a excellent carreer.

Sosa: So what. Cotto KO'd the guy in 4.
Cotto beat Sosa AFTER Floyd beat him 12-0.

Gatti: 14 years / 45 fights into a pro career. Had 6 losses and been in brutal wars. RIP.
Gatti had never really been dominated like that, not even of when me moved to 147 to fight Oscar. Many people in the boxing community and on this forum picked Gatti to win that fight

Mitchell: Small, old southpaw, done nothing at welterweight. Done nothing since Tszyu knocked him out a year earlier. Shopworn, 17 years / 60 fights into a pro career.

Former light welterweight champion of the world.

Judah: Was destroyed by Kostya Tszyu, lost to Cory Spinks, and most importantly, lost to Baldomir before fighting Floyd.
Do you hold Manny Pac's early ko losses against him? Because Judah's loss was at least to legitimate competition. Judah was the lineal welterweight champion who lost a razor thin decision to Baldy. Many people had predicted Judah to defeat Floyd pre-baldomir

Baldomir. It's just... Baldomir. 60 fights including 9 losses (now 12), super low KO ratio, and a career spanning 13 years at the time of fighting Mayweather.
Much bigger than Floyd and defeated Judah, who was the lineal champion many favored to beat Mayweather. Floyd won every round with a hand injury.

Oscar: Faded. SD is an unimpressive result.
Funny how a "faded" Oscar was a pick em fight with Floyd. He looked impressive against Mayorga and Floyd moved up to 154 to face him....but Floyd is afraid to fight guys "his size":rolleyes:
Not to mention that that fight was a clear win for Floyd. Did you even watch it?

Hatton: Was out of his depth.
This matchup had been talked about for YEARS Hatton was supposedly the guy who could beat Floyd because of his style, and he was 43-0. Floyd won 7 or the first 9 rounds and knocked him out in dramatic fashion.
Marquez: Brilliant fighter when he isn't pumped full of quayle eggs and urine. Totally out of his depth above 135. Aging veteran with 55 fights and four losses under his belt in a career 16 years deep.

Marquez argubly defeated Pac twice and was coming off a knockout victory against Diaz. None of the age argument nonsense came out until AFTER the fight (aka exactly what will happen if Floyd fights and beats Mosley). Floyd dominated him in a fashion no other figher ever has.

WOW! That's ATG material right there!

See? Anybody can do this.

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It is blatently obvious to anyone with half of a brain that Floyd faced better versions of both Oscar and Hatton. Its not even an argument.

Slightly better versions possibly, except Hatton was not in his weight class.

Look at the results though -- Pacquiao showed how it was meant to be done. Floyd got an SD and a KO after 10 rounds. Pacquiao won every round, gave Oscar the beating of his lifetime, and Hatton was lucky to make it past the second minute of the first round. That's the kind of **** Floyd should be doing, but isn't.

LOL. Floyd said Hatton was one of his hardest fights! FFS.



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See? Anybody can do this.

Sure, but it's still not impressive. 7 years do do **** all. Brilliant!

Spin it however you want.



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[Easy-E]

And Manny?Except for the marquez fights and the loss to Morales?

You mean except for those three fights? Well we can talk about his two knockout losses or his draw with agapito sanchez.
Or maybe when he was down on all three cards against Chatchai Sasakul before getting a KO.

[Easy-E]

Sure, but it's still not impressive. 7 years do do **** all. Brilliant!

LOL. Not impressive according to you.
But then again, since when is your opinion relevant or important?