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Originally posted by arcticfalconer
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Say what you and Ironhead will say , thats cool..
I learned to look for things in a fighter , over the years , I have seen what makes a great fighter....
My beef with the mayhuggers is simple ,,,, I see no depth of knowledge what it means to be a fighter in the young people these days. I am not talking about skills. Its like there is a change in perception of what goes into making a great fighter.
I am extremely irked by Mayweathers style, not his defensive style,,, not his great skills , not his inherent radar that hollars incoming and the ability to make the right move at the right time ALA Benetiz ,,,,,, this is where you and Ironhead are missing what I have been saying using the Quitter approach, the uncle that Quit , my harassment toward Mayweather and the followers like you and Ironhead plus all the rest,
I will put it as straight as I can:
1. Mayweather is the best I have seen in defense in the lower weights. If Barrera or Morales were at the same weight as Mayweather , and they fought in their primes , I would have picked Barrera and Morales to whip his ass. NO such luck. Mayweather goes up in weight then FROM ALL APPEARANCES he Ducked fighters. You see it galls me to death to watch fighters from the late fifties to now take on ALL COMERS , fight there hearts out, NOT ABOUT STYLE , Great fighters with Heart,,,,, like Ali, who ran , danced whatever but he fought as game as a bulldog,, this is what I see missing in you young dudes, yall can't get a grasp on that . You think I am some old nut who's been cracked a long time ago. LOL,,,,,, Fraizer was a great fighter,,, game as they come but he never ran except to ya,,,, was he gamer than Ali, can't prove it by me, and I saw All of Ali's fights from Doug Jones to the last, and he was as game as they come, had a motor mouth but NEVER VILE !!! Mayweaters vile like Tyson,,,, and expression of the heart. Tough outwardly but coward inwardly, thats How I see him. If I am wrong , you can't prove it , it has to be done in the ring, if he would take on ALL COMERS then that would prove it but he is afraid to because it might take his O away, can't yall see that,,,,,??????????????? You young guys can't see that!!!! You spit on me with sayings like I can't speak right or say things in perspective, I can say that about yall, like yall aren't making sense ,its because we are coming at this Fight between Pac and jr at two different angles. Both have skills, this HAS NEVER BEEN MY ARGUMENT ,,,,,,EVER !!!!!!!! I have watched Pac and May , Pac shows game to stay ,,,,,, I am having a hard time thinking jr will stay,,, PROVE IT MANG !!!!!!! you can't , the fight will have too. If Pac can't get to him he loses and I will still think the same way until I am satisfied I AM WRONG !!! You can't prove it mang, neither can IRON HEAD.
I have seen so many fighters in my short lifetime that I can't remember them all but I learned that to stay in the big time and win you had to have more than skills !!! In other words, somebody will test you past your skills and that is what I am banking on Pacmang to do.
Pac is going up hill in this fight. The toughest fight of his life and I have vacillated a few times.
Mayweather is not a fight fans fighter but:
A fighter that won't take on all comers but
protects his status
spues vile from his lips to intimidate ( bad sign) ( bluffing)
cherry picks small guys
By the way wanting "WIGGLE ROOM" ???? He did Cheat on JMM ! No real man would have done that , but I believe he did it on purpose, just the way he projected himself in the post interview,, sic ! and by the way he would cheat on Pac, because its his nature.
in my opinion based on experince he has a HEART problem. All outside expressions are expressions from his heart, I could be wrong, LOL, but it will be have to be proved.
I have all my life pulled for the game fighter. He is the one who will take on all comers, won't try to cheat like Mayweather did JMM, not worried about his status , Has no need to intimidate, one who is skilled and game. He is outwardly , calm, respectful , not a hype job , always ready for a greater challenge, not like Mayweather who whipped a little guy named JMM and bragged on it. I despise That !!!!
The Quitters are the ones who spue their vile to intimidate, like Tyson,,, he Quit !!!! Mayweather Uncle QUIT,,,, might be in his genes, LOL,,, don't know YET , but we gonna find out,,,,, Jr. Might be a freak, one who acts CUR,,, Pay attention here , I have said this before and Yall didn't get it, I said he may be cur,,,, that means he may QUIT,,,don't know, his skills have kept everyone off him, but somebody will get on him,,,, pac is too small but he might get on him... Mosley would get on him and test his ass then we would see, Pac just might do it, I will have to go with Pac,,,, when all the skills is done,,,,if yall have any sense you will see in the Chavez Mayweather fight , that rogers skills was NOT ENOUGH and he had no heart to keep him OFF and in the fight and he QUIT.... I cannot say it any plainer.. If one quits he will quit again whether it be dog or man.
Pacman may not beat Mayweather. Mayweathers great skills may keep Pac off of him. He, outside of Mosley is the only two that has a shot at beating Mayweather,,,,, Lewis said that but I think most people think that way. I do or did before he said that. I would rather see Mosley fight Mayweather due to the size factor.
Williams can't beat Mayweather , Margo is out, Cotto is done, Mayweather didn't fight all comers , I can't prove that Mayweathers HEART will QUIT or give in to just surviving the fight until somebody gets ahold of Mayweather,,,, so I have go out on a limb and you and Iron head may cut the limb anytime you wish, but you and Ironhead will have to wait til March 14th to really rub it in and drive it home how wrong I was and ****** and idiotic and I will be here to take or to give it, smiles.
to sum this up,,, we are coming at this fight from different perspectives. Pacs skills are not the same as Jr.s skills,,,, I am hoping that Pac can get to him, get on him , plant some great shots on his chin, see him wobble , go down , hurt badly and after three or 4 rounds of getting the beating of his life see what he wants to do. His skills won't help him if he is not game to stay in a beat down , it will take heart and you nor Iron Head can tell me nothing about his heart , not yet.
I learned to look for things in a fighter , over the years , I have seen what makes a great fighter....
My beef with the mayhuggers is simple ,,,, I see no depth of knowledge what it means to be a fighter in the young people these days. I am not talking about skills. Its like there is a change in perception of what goes into making a great fighter.
I am extremely irked by Mayweathers style, not his defensive style,,, not his great skills , not his inherent radar that hollars incoming and the ability to make the right move at the right time ALA Benetiz ,,,,,, this is where you and Ironhead are missing what I have been saying using the Quitter approach, the uncle that Quit , my harassment toward Mayweather and the followers like you and Ironhead plus all the rest,
I will put it as straight as I can:
1. Mayweather is the best I have seen in defense in the lower weights. If Barrera or Morales were at the same weight as Mayweather , and they fought in their primes , I would have picked Barrera and Morales to whip his ass. NO such luck. Mayweather goes up in weight then FROM ALL APPEARANCES he Ducked fighters. You see it galls me to death to watch fighters from the late fifties to now take on ALL COMERS , fight there hearts out, NOT ABOUT STYLE , Great fighters with Heart,,,,, like Ali, who ran , danced whatever but he fought as game as a bulldog,, this is what I see missing in you young dudes, yall can't get a grasp on that . You think I am some old nut who's been cracked a long time ago. LOL,,,,,, Fraizer was a great fighter,,, game as they come but he never ran except to ya,,,, was he gamer than Ali, can't prove it by me, and I saw All of Ali's fights from Doug Jones to the last, and he was as game as they come, had a motor mouth but NEVER VILE !!! Mayweaters vile like Tyson,,,, and expression of the heart. Tough outwardly but coward inwardly, thats How I see him. If I am wrong , you can't prove it , it has to be done in the ring, if he would take on ALL COMERS then that would prove it but he is afraid to because it might take his O away, can't yall see that,,,,,??????????????? You young guys can't see that!!!! You spit on me with sayings like I can't speak right or say things in perspective, I can say that about yall, like yall aren't making sense ,its because we are coming at this Fight between Pac and jr at two different angles. Both have skills, this HAS NEVER BEEN MY ARGUMENT ,,,,,,EVER !!!!!!!! I have watched Pac and May , Pac shows game to stay ,,,,,, I am having a hard time thinking jr will stay,,, PROVE IT MANG !!!!!!! you can't , the fight will have too. If Pac can't get to him he loses and I will still think the same way until I am satisfied I AM WRONG !!! You can't prove it mang, neither can IRON HEAD.
I have seen so many fighters in my short lifetime that I can't remember them all but I learned that to stay in the big time and win you had to have more than skills !!! In other words, somebody will test you past your skills and that is what I am banking on Pacmang to do.
Pac is going up hill in this fight. The toughest fight of his life and I have vacillated a few times.
Mayweather is not a fight fans fighter but:
A fighter that won't take on all comers but
protects his status
spues vile from his lips to intimidate ( bad sign) ( bluffing)
cherry picks small guys
By the way wanting "WIGGLE ROOM" ???? He did Cheat on JMM ! No real man would have done that , but I believe he did it on purpose, just the way he projected himself in the post interview,, sic ! and by the way he would cheat on Pac, because its his nature.
in my opinion based on experince he has a HEART problem. All outside expressions are expressions from his heart, I could be wrong, LOL, but it will be have to be proved.
I have all my life pulled for the game fighter. He is the one who will take on all comers, won't try to cheat like Mayweather did JMM, not worried about his status , Has no need to intimidate, one who is skilled and game. He is outwardly , calm, respectful , not a hype job , always ready for a greater challenge, not like Mayweather who whipped a little guy named JMM and bragged on it. I despise That !!!!
The Quitters are the ones who spue their vile to intimidate, like Tyson,,, he Quit !!!! Mayweather Uncle QUIT,,,, might be in his genes, LOL,,, don't know YET , but we gonna find out,,,,, Jr. Might be a freak, one who acts CUR,,, Pay attention here , I have said this before and Yall didn't get it, I said he may be cur,,,, that means he may QUIT,,,don't know, his skills have kept everyone off him, but somebody will get on him,,,, pac is too small but he might get on him... Mosley would get on him and test his ass then we would see, Pac just might do it, I will have to go with Pac,,,, when all the skills is done,,,,if yall have any sense you will see in the Chavez Mayweather fight , that rogers skills was NOT ENOUGH and he had no heart to keep him OFF and in the fight and he QUIT.... I cannot say it any plainer.. If one quits he will quit again whether it be dog or man.
Pacman may not beat Mayweather. Mayweathers great skills may keep Pac off of him. He, outside of Mosley is the only two that has a shot at beating Mayweather,,,,, Lewis said that but I think most people think that way. I do or did before he said that. I would rather see Mosley fight Mayweather due to the size factor.
Williams can't beat Mayweather , Margo is out, Cotto is done, Mayweather didn't fight all comers , I can't prove that Mayweathers HEART will QUIT or give in to just surviving the fight until somebody gets ahold of Mayweather,,,, so I have go out on a limb and you and Iron head may cut the limb anytime you wish, but you and Ironhead will have to wait til March 14th to really rub it in and drive it home how wrong I was and ****** and idiotic and I will be here to take or to give it, smiles.
to sum this up,,, we are coming at this fight from different perspectives. Pacs skills are not the same as Jr.s skills,,,, I am hoping that Pac can get to him, get on him , plant some great shots on his chin, see him wobble , go down , hurt badly and after three or 4 rounds of getting the beating of his life see what he wants to do. His skills won't help him if he is not game to stay in a beat down , it will take heart and you nor Iron Head can tell me nothing about his heart , not yet.
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