Poll: Pacquiao vs. Leonard in primes

[RightCross94]

You idiot did you read the whole thread?

I have more boxing knowledge than you. im willing to bet real money on it.


I have a good memory I dont use google. You're here 6 months and you think you already know something? GTFOH you. noob

LOL, you know more than me about Manny, that's for sure, but more about boxing? No.

You don't use google? Google and Boxrec are bestfriends to a ******* like you who knows nothing about the finer points of the sport, but a lot about the finer points of Manny's pubic hair.

This is not my first account here, I've been posting since Jan 08. And regardless, there is other ways to learn about boxing besides this site.

[The_Demon]

leonard beats manny,late stoppage or UD

its that simple

[obie]

You already tried to come at me with this bull**** you didn't predict anything that wasn't known. During you posted this. Arum and Schafer were already discussing a potential Oscar-Pac fight.

How about his prediction on Pac-Cotto before Pac-DLH and Pac-Hatton.

Posted on 06-17-2008, 03:33 AM

If Pac KOs Hatton and beat DLH, that tells you that Pac can carry his power and Sturdy enough for Cotto. Maybe Arum will be crazy enough to make this fight.

Offence wise Pac can handle Cotto. Pac has longer arms and a much faster guy. Power right now belongs to Cotto but we still have to see the stronger Pac at 135-147. Pac vs Diaz, Hatton/DLH will answer that.

remove space. Post #33

http://www.east sideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71371&page=3

[Pacdbest]

How about his prediction on Pac-Cotto before Pac-DLH and Pac-Hatton.

Posted on 06-17-2008, 03:33 AM



remove space. Post #33

http://www.east sideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71371&page=3

Thanks for the help!!

[Chase8400]

Well so far this thread has confirmed everything everyone always assumes about alot of new boxing fans brought here by Pac. Im afraid for the future of the world right now. Can we at least get some more Pac fans to admit that they dont think anyone being equal size would beat Pac? Let's just be honest here people.

Finally, it's understood.

This thread was made to point out exactly how blown up the Manny Pacquiao phenomenon has become. People who have barely started watching boxing, god bless them, seem to believe Manny is some crazy, unbeatable asian sensation like Bruce Lee with no flaws and couldn't possibly be beaten.

And, while I do have massive respect for Pacquiao and think his accomplishments are extraordinary, this has just become lunacy.

Pac is definitely an all time great, but to say he's top ten or could beat a fighter like SRL @ 147 is just ignorance, yet some new or blinded fans can still see it that way. I know it's a hypothetical matchup that obviously could never happen, but it really takes some nuts to come on here and pick Pacquiao on this poll , yet there were a lot of members who did.

That's just scary and I wanted to get the point across to really watch out who we are dealing with........

NOW WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA> just go click on the number next to Pacman's name and reveal the priceless knowledge I've blessed us sane members with.

Just thank me later, lol.

[LeeVanCleef]

Prime SR Leonard vs Prime Manny Pacquiao(now) @ 147.

Who wins?

Poll coming...........

Damn, I'm a fan of Pac. Pacman is going to give Leonard a hard time, but, Leonard wins by KO.

[Pacdbest]

Finally, it's understood.

This thread was made to point out exactly how blown up the Manny Pacquiao phenomenon has become. People who have barely started watching boxing, god bless them, seem to believe Manny is some crazy, unbeatable asian sensation like Bruce Lee with no flaws and couldn't possibly be beaten.

And, while I do have massive respect for Pacquiao and think his accomplishments are extraordinary, this has just become lunacy.

Pac is definitely an all time great, but to say he's top ten or could beat a fighter like SRL @ 147 is just ignorance, yet some new or blinded fans can still see it that way. I know it's a hypothetical matchup that obviously could never happen, but it really takes some nuts to come on here and pick Pacquiao on this poll , yet there were a lot of members who did.

That's just scary and I wanted to get the point across to really watch out who we are dealing with........

NOW WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA> just go click on the number next to Pacman's name and reveal the priceless knowledge I've blessed us sane members with.

Just thank me later, lol.

If you really follow my saga at esb when I am the lone one Campaigning for a Pac fight with Hatton, DLH & PBF, you'll find that I am very solid about by beliefs about Pac's ability. Even the loyal pac fans there were debating me. They were thinking that I'm giving Pac fans a Bad name by suggesting these fights for Pac. Nobody really believed that Pac could accomplished what I'm suggesting.

These were the times when Pac already annihilated Morales in third fight. I knew MAB will be just tune-ups & JMM will be finally beaten & moved on to Bigger things.

Most of you here where were in your 20s & wasn't born yet during the Eras of SRL & Hearns. I'm in the 40s & was a fan already during those times. In the 80s, our generation thought SRL just got lucky when he met the undertrained Duran & party too much Duran in the rematch. Duran Quit & lost some respect. SRL lost some fans also for Clowning & running too much with that fight. SRL gained respect back when he Ko Hearns in the tough fight. But he was not believable when he suddenly retired. To us we perceived that as Ducking Hearns rematch & avoiding Hagler. This was some Kinda what PBF did when PBF ducks Margarito, Mosley & Cotto. Only SRL has a real alibi because of his injury.

I wasn't really a Big fan of Boxing then when SRL finally complete his legacy by Fighting Hearns in the rematch & Hagler at 160. Boxing lost some momentum when SRL retired & Duran gain too much lbs in between fights. Hearns could have come a Much Bigger Draw during the SRL absence if only he was Blessed with an Iron Chin.

SRL performance against Hearns2, Hagler & Duran were not as Great as Pac's Performance with DLH, Hatton, Cotto, MAB & EM. But we can say that Pac's Close point win against JMM were comparable to SRL close point win against Hagler. As you can see... Pac has more Amazing performances against the Elite oppositions than Hagler, Hearns, Duran & Leonard. That's how I saw Pac during his Saga of his Completion of His Quest to beat all Challenges in maybe the Greatest Featherweight/SFW era. That's the reason I am very confident when Pac finally Moved up to beat up our generations of Welters. Pac Beat all FW/SFW in the Greatest era, so it will be not so hard for him to annihilate the current welter ERa!!! Can't wait till Pac finishes the last on the list!!!! Floyd pls don't chicken out!!!!

[Jim Jeffries]

Has it been two years since 80% of people were saying that Hatton would destroy Pac at 140, that Manny was just too small?

Sorry, but I'd have to see him fight quite a bit more at WW, before I'd like his chances against a much bigger ATG like Leonard. And I'm a Pac fan.

[Pacdbest]

Has it been two years since 80% of people were saying that Hatton would destroy Pac at 140, that Manny was just too small?

Sorry, but I'd have to see him fight quite a bit more at WW, before I'd like his chances against a much bigger ATG like Leonard. And I'm a Pac fan.

We don't need to over analyze this. Everything will fall into pieces!! Pac was already rated by almost all Boxing scribes at at least top 15 ATG. Pac already been compared to Henry Armstrong for 2 years now!! Remember During the Pac-Cotto fight when Merchant said Pac is a more Dynamic Puncher than Armstrong??? He basically said Pac was the stronger Puncher than Armstrong!!! That's a really really strong Statement!!!

[jkaisen41]

Finally, it's understood.

This thread was made to point out exactly how blown up the Manny Pacquiao phenomenon has become. People who have barely started watching boxing, god bless them, seem to believe Manny is some crazy, unbeatable asian sensation like Bruce Lee with no flaws and couldn't possibly be beaten.

And, while I do have massive respect for Pacquiao and think his accomplishments are extraordinary, this has just become lunacy.

Pac is definitely an all time great, but to say he's top ten or could beat a fighter like SRL @ 147 is just ignorance, yet some new or blinded fans can still see it that way. I know it's a hypothetical matchup that obviously could never happen, but it really takes some nuts to come on here and pick Pacquiao on this poll , yet there were a lot of members who did.

That's just scary and I wanted to get the point across to really watch out who we are dealing with........

NOW WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA> just go click on the number next to Pacman's name and reveal the priceless knowledge I've blessed us sane members with.

Just thank me later, lol.

You really can't compare that... I think that same question was ask about Mayweather vs. Leonard... you can't answer that because Pacquiao was his best at 126/130... Mayweather at 130/135... Leonard is an actual WW... so if you ask me if Mayweather with his NOW style at 47 and Pacquiao now at 47 could beat him I don't think so... I think he would win against both decisions...

But if Floyd and Pac would fight at 147 like they did in their natural weight classes and had the same power they had at their natural weight... both could have a chance... never seen Ray Leonard against a fast southpaw (I don't cound the Camacho fight) and Floyd is fundamentally more sound then Leonard... it will be hard for Pacquiao though because Leonard is fast moving... and we will see how Manny does against someone who is fast and doesn't engage him...

at 147 Leonard wins
if Pacquiao would be the 130 Pacquiao I give him a shot but would still favor Leonard.