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  • joe kurtz
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    #81
    Originally posted by Munn
    I have had a partial rotator cuff tear and it was pretty bad.

    Trouble is, I still had to go to work the next day and the day after that .....

    Vitali needed to stay in their for what, a couple more rounds? Seems a bit like Golota walking outn of the ring, except Viatli sat in a chair and gave up. Thats not the kind of **** that wins the hearts of fight fans. Sure it hurt, sure it was bad, but we're looking for tough guys in the fight game. Vitali has done some things to redeem himself, like allowing Lennox to open him up for 40 stitches and not quitting, but other than that, he's not responded like a Champ when faced with adversity.
    OK, I respect your opinion on this a bit more as someone who's been through the injury...
    So, imagine having a full tear & having already gone through several rounds with it & facing the prospect of having to go through a couple-few more with it against another world class pugilist intent on taking your head off.

    Hey, I wasn't too pleased with Vitali's decision back then myself. But, now in retrospect, especially how we've seen him respond in other adverse situations since, I feel comfortable with his explaination that he just could not continue.
    I think a lot of the trouble with people's inability to accept his retiring in that contest was the fact that he did it in such a stoic manner. He displayed very little of the pain that he was in, therefore it came as a shock when he stayed in his corner. I think many of the people that criticize him so vehemently for it, would be a lot more forgiving if he'd outwardly displayed his pain & discomfort more.
    Look at what I see as a REAL quitjob in Sharma Mitchell's retirement against Kostya Tszyu in their first fight.
    It's clearly displayed on the video & audio that he's begging his corner to stop the fight for him, but then, during the post fight interviews he claimed that he wanted to continue & that his corner wouldn't allow him to blah, blah, blah...
    Yet Mitchell doesn't get NEARLY as much flack as Klitschko does for retiring in his corner because Sharmba put on such a big display with his pain, writhing & moaning & crying & all that.

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    • SacTown1
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      #82
      Originally posted by joe kurtz
      OK, I respect your opinion on this a bit more as someone who's been through the injury...
      So, imagine having a full tear & having already gone through several rounds with it & facing the prospect of having to go through a couple-few more with it against another world class pugilist intent on taking your head off.

      Hey, I wasn't too pleased with Vitali's decision back then myself. But, now in retrospect, especially how we've seen him respond in other adverse situations since, I feel comfortable with his explaination that he just could not continue.
      I think a lot of the trouble with people's inability to accept his retiring in that contest was the fact that he did it in such a stoic manner. He displayed very little of the pain that he was in, therefore it came as a shock when he stayed in his corner. I think many of the people that criticize him so vehemently for it, would be a lot more forgiving if he'd outwardly displayed his pain & discomfort more.
      Look at what I see as a REAL quitjob in Sharma Mitchell's retirement against Kostya Tszyu in their first fight.
      It's clearly displayed on the video & audio that he's begging his corner to stop the fight for him, but then, during the post fight interviews he claimed that he wanted to continue & that his corner wouldn't allow him to blah, blah, blah...
      Yet Mitchell doesn't get NEARLY as much flack as Klitschko does for retiring in his corner because Sharmba put on such a big display with his pain, writhing & moaning & crying & all that.
      Klitschko gets more heat than Mitchell because Mitchell has never been respected period, Klitschko was supposed to be a God and then he quit vs. Byrd; when Mitchell quit vs. Tszyu, nobody blinked nor cared, because hw wasn't all that good to begin with (he won his title vs. Khalid Rahilou....no seriously....) THAT's why Quitali takes more heat 4 his actions

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      • hollister
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        #83
        Originally posted by SacTown1
        Bowe isn't heartless or shameful, he's just a lard-a$$, and Billy Zumbrun proved that he's a complete zero by not being able to floor Big Daddy when he had the chance, that fight was di****able either way, I hope they both retire
        You're probably right about them both needing to retire, but Bowe's never been KO'd. Dropped but not KO'd.

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        • joeboxer
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          #84
          Originally posted by hollister
          You're probably right about them both needing to retire, but Bowe's never been KO'd. Dropped but not KO'd.

          **** you and Sac Town. Billy Zumbrum is the man! I rarely use the bad Karma button but I'm busting it out for this one.

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          • Mech.
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            #85
            Originally posted by Runw/knives
            Corrales V.S. Freitas was pathetic IMO.

            That was just ridiculous. Acelino acted like he was ok to fight, and started to point blame at the corner.....and used odd body language. He then got hammered......and quit outright. I never forgave him for that.

            I forgave William Joppy right after the Taylor fight, because he is one of my favorite fighters, and has been for a long time now. He was just completely frustrated and outgunned....not to mention battling injuries.

            Freitas simply quit from being outgunned.
            Yeah freitas was pretty shamefull,especially how he kept spitting out his mouthpiece just to get some time,all that **** just to quit? Pshhhhh.

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            • Kid Achilles
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              #86
              Billy Zumbrum should definitely not retire. Bowe needs to rematch the guy once he's gotten himself into better shape and prove that he hasn't slipped THAT much.

              I like Bill from what I've seen during the Bowe fight and I hope he can make some money before he leaves the sport.

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              • Moon
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                #87
                Originally posted by Slipx
                Neither do limp-wristed hockey fans.
                First .... Canuck doesn't have anything to do with NHL, except there is a team on the west coast. Second, are you stalking me? Keep it up SLIP, your short-bus wit will keep everybody entertained.

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                • Duncan
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                  #88
                  Oscar De Lay Hoya running from Trinidad for the last three rounds. What makes it even more shameful is that if he didn't run, DLH very well could have won those rounds. But he wussed out.

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                  • Zab Super Judah
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                    #89
                    joppy vs taylor because joppy didnt fight.....

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                    • Derranged_
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                      #90
                      The most shameful display of cowardice, IMO is when Golota quit after the second round vs Mike Tyson. Golota that night discraced himself and the sport. Enough said.

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