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  • Joe2608
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    #51
    Originally posted by It's Ovah
    Well, the Klits aren't exactly "normal sized guys" either. So what makes you think he KOs either of them?
    They are smaller than Valuev, it is also known that Wlad has a weak chin and Vitali could be slowing down it seems. Haye also injured his right hand (his money shot) early in the Valuev fight and had to use his left exclusively to win the decision, and he even rocked Valuev with a left (his secondary weapon so to say) in the final round.

    I'm not saying he beats them, but you have to take all these points into consideration, people think they saw the typical David Haye in the Valuev fight but it was actually a handicapped Haye with a huge size difference and an iron chin in front of him.

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    • Syf
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      #52
      Johnson would upset Haye with his defense, I think.

      Also, Johnson wouldn't be as afraid of Haye's punches, so he, being the more natural heavyweight, would make Haye respect his weight, if not his power.

      However, Haye might enjoy the same advantages Pac enjoys if bigger opponents underestimate him, and catch Johnson as he gets too confident and opens up.

      But... Johnson seems like a REALLLL cautious dude. He probly wouldn't even think like that against Haye. And if he does that, he will pick Haye apart, and ultimately land something Haye is not comfortable with (ie. anything)

      That's why I would take a straddle bet, if I was betting. on one hand bet on Haye KO'ing Johnson, on the other hand, a decision for Johnson over Haye.

      but if forced to bet on just one, I'd go with Johnson by decision

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      • Calza appy
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        #53
        Originally posted by Klitschko2009
        Haye already ducked Johnson.

        Did you ******s watch Haye/Valuev?

        Haye is absolute garbage

        And dont put (lol) next to Johnson by KO.

        Haye has the weakest chin in the HW division. He has been knocked down and badly hurt by super middleweights and light heavyweights and was destroyed in 5 rounds by old shot light heavyweight Thompson (who has been KTFO 5 times). Johnson definitely has enough power to shatter Haye's awful glass chin.
        When will you acknowledge that Haye fought 10 rounds with a broken hand? And still won!

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        • Capital Punch
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          #54
          Originally posted by Calza appy
          When will you acknowledge that Haye fought 10 rounds with a broken hand? And still won!

          So the excuse for Haye's lame performance in the Valuev fight is a busted hand? First it was because he had to adopt defensive tactics to have any chance against the "big hitting" Russian, now its a hand. Haye huggers need to make their minds up.

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          • nomadman
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            #55
            Originally posted by Joe2608
            They are smaller than Valuev, it is also known that Wlad has a weak chin and Vitali could be slowing down it seems. Haye also injured his right hand (his money shot) early in the Valuev fight and had to use his left exclusively to win the decision, and he even rocked Valuev with a left (his secondary weapon so to say) in the final round.

            I'm not saying he beats them, but you have to take all these points into consideration, people think they saw the typical David Haye in the Valuev fight but it was actually a handicapped Haye with a huge size difference and an iron chin in front of him.
            I was actually quite impressed with the way Haye beat Valuev. He was picking his shots very well, and using good footwork to get out of the way of much of Valuev's offence. He's definitely a better boxer than I previously gave him credit for. Saying that, I still don't see him beating either Klit. They may be smaller than Valuev, but they're still massive men, and also considerably quicker and more talented, Wlad especially. Vitali may be slowing down (I'd like to reserve my judgement until his next fight) but he's still by far the most active and offensive heavyweight in the game, and his chin hasn't shown signs of cracking as of yet. These points need to be taken into consideration as well.

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            • Calza appy
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              #56
              Originally posted by Capital Punch
              So the excuse for Haye's lame performance in the Valuev fight is a busted hand? First it was because he had to adopt defensive tactics to have any chance against the "big hitting" Russian, now its a hand. Haye huggers need to make their minds up.
              You could fight well for 10 rounds with your favoured hand broken i suppose?

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              • Joe2608
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                #57
                Originally posted by It's Ovah
                I was actually quite impressed with the way Haye beat Valuev. He was picking his shots very well, and using good footwork to get out of the way of much of Valuev's offence. He's definitely a better boxer than I previously gave him credit for. Saying that, I still don't see him beating either Klit. They may be smaller than Valuev, but they're still massive men, and also considerably quicker and more talented, Wlad especially. Vitali may be slowing down (I'd like to reserve my judgement until his next fight) but he's still by far the most active and offensive heavyweight in the game, and his chin hasn't shown signs of cracking as of yet. These points need to be taken into consideration as well.
                I don't think he can decision either of them, but i think he has a chance to KO/TKO them.

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                • Calza appy
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                  #58
                  For Bitchko2009 and the other doubters



                  0.40 seconds onwards.

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                  • Capital Punch
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Calza appy
                    You could fight well for 10 rounds with your favoured hand broken i suppose?
                    The guy in your avatar fought with broken hands several times, and never ran away like a ***** from anyone. Haye had a hairline fracture and some swelling, wow! That's the fight game! And I don't think Haye fought very well at all, he ran away for eleven rounds until his corner told him that he had to stop Valuev to be sure of the win. Suddenly Haye found a few punches, but for me the fight was draw.

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                    • Calza appy
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                      #60
                      Yeah but the guy in my avatar was a different gravy.....

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