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Ali is called "The Dreatest" only because he called himself, The Greatest. Does anyone think that Mayweather is called "Pretty Boy" because he's goodlooking??? Nadd atall.... He called himself "Pretty Boy" because his first name is Floyd, after that famous bank robber of te early 1930's "Pretty Boy" Floyd.
I'm glad to see that someone acknowledges two of my biggest boxing gripes.
They are that I firmly believe that Joe Frazier, as brave as he is, was not good enough to be in the top m15 or 20 heavyweights.
And....... the biggest hoax, Rocky Marciano was probably the worst heavyweight Champion of all time.Comment
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Elie Seckbach: (talking about Vitali vs. Wladimir) "Hypothetically if you did fight, who would win?"
Wladimir Klitschko: "Vitali gonna win this fight."
CASE CLOSED! Vitali is the better brother.Comment
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we're all entitled to our opinions, coupled with the fact that boxing is so subjective.
however, to make a statement like vlad being the greatest heavyweight ever, backing this up by comparing statistical records with greats, statistical records never ever being a firm basis to compare boxers , i would really have to question how long you have been a true, studious boxing fan? perhaps since 2000, when vlad beat byrd perhaps?
i like the other dudes case for making vlad the choice over vitali , however i honestly don't think that vlad could withstand what vitali would throw at him over a potential 36 mins, which is why i would make vitali the choice for which bro would beat which. ta
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there is having an opinion, and there is talking **** after smoking crack. i suggest you put the pipe down before you post. isnt there a moderator tthat can ban people for talking such ****??? lol there should be. ok imo the further we go into the future the better fighters get, due to the fact like with anything in life you learn from those before you, allowing you to filter out there mistakes. so boxers of today generally are better then those before. but to say vlad is better than ali? foreman? frazier prob was too small for him but to call him a journeyman????? you are the ******est person on here, this is an all time classic dumb post, the worst ive read since coming on here! prime ali would have embarresed vlad and vitali, he was to quick would have danced all night, and we know he can take a punch, never got ktfo like vlad. in his prime he would have caught him and stopped him, he wasnt the most power*** but in his prime he was so fast he could hit you where it hurts before you knew what hit you. his first loss came after being out for three years and then he bounced back and shocked the world he has the best resume of any HW fighter, his losses to berbick and holmes shouldnt even be taken into consideration, he was no where near his old slf when people say rj is shot or something, truly being shot was ali v holmes, he was already starting to feel the effects of parkinsons. foreman was a beast would have crushd vlad, untill he fought ali he was undefeated im sure it was 40-0, vitali at his best would have been a great fight for him, frazier was too small but no journeyman to say that you dont have a clue about boxing, lewis got caught cold once he didnt train prperlly 4 the fight, but eevn if he had same thing could have happened, can happen to ANYONE, ANYTIME in boxing. against oliver mcall was early stoppage he was hurt but i think he could have survived that ref jumped in way too quick, prime tyson, well im not even gonna bother explainin put simply he would have annihilated vlad and vitali, your whole argument is based on there records, which is so so ******! how ****** are you? go **** your head off the wall, then slap yourself come back and apologize to everyone on here then say sorry to your mother for being so dumb. i dont care if you lose 50 fights, if you lose your ability which everyone does eventually and you continue fighting your gona lose, against even the weakest of opponents! fighters are not supposed to be judged on there records alone, neither klit accomplised anything that these fighters you mention have, your clearly from eastern europe or something with a biased view. stop smoking crack.Last edited by Odawg; 12-12-2009, 08:08 AM.Comment
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Wlad and Vitlai the best?
Vitali - Once a cheat always a cheat. Would not surprise me if he is on roids right now.
Wlad - Scared to rematch the guys he lost to and then asks his roids brother to fight them. Chinny as well.
Lennox is ATG.Last edited by HM_Luke; 12-12-2009, 08:12 AM.Comment
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are you ******ed? (yes)
klitschkos are light years beyond the rest of the division right now, there isn't a cleaner division in boxing than the klitschkos have made.
also wlad fought lamon brewster, neither puritty or sanders were worth rematching as wlad moved up in status and they moved down.
and lennox has nothing to do with this conversation, do you think he still fights or something?
what heavyweight is going to beat either of them? id love to know.Comment
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My reply is to M.A.
Haye has a chance. I don't see any other HW having a chance though.Comment
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I really dont know how anyone can say Wlad beats Vitali,and keep a straight face. Vitali would have been a monster in any era.Comment
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Not just his chin, he's a much better natural fighter. Wlad is a better boxer but he's over-cautious and doesn't have the same natural fighting instincts that Vitali has, or the same uncanny ability to judge space and distance. Vitali also throws far more combinations than Wlad does. Wlad mostly just throws the jab-right-cross one-two. Vitali is far more unpredictable and hard to read.Comment
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