Mayweather's Offense = Predictable & Can't Hurt Pacquiao.

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  • shadeyfizzle
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    #11
    Originally posted by DLT
    You disagree like most people do because all you see him do now mostly is pot shot but if he lets his hands go like he's capable of then who's O is better? Who can do more things than Floyd on Offense? Who has thrown the variety of shots he has, all at a high level?
    being able to throw a variety of punches doesnt make him mr. offense. There's a reason why he doesnt become offensive unless the opponent is a sitting duck.

    Between Pacquiao and Mayweather I'm far more impressed by the fact Pacquiao can launch an offensive in positions that no other fighter would even be able to cover up to defend themselves, let alone throw punches with as much precision and power as if they were thrown in textbook fashion.

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      #12
      I'ma put it this way. Ask Floyd to not throw his left hook (just for argument sake) for this fight. No chance in hell he wins. You think he hurts Manny pop shotting his way all night with his right hand, also knowing that same hand is brittle as hell?

      If Pac somehow doesn't get hit by that left hook (not as much), he wins this fight EASY. I bet Roach is thinking the same way. Stay away from Floyd's left hook. His best, and most powerful punch......

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      • DLT
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        #13
        Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
        being able to throw a variety of punches doesnt make him mr. offense. There's a reason why he doesnt become offensive unless the opponent is a sitting duck.

        Between Pacquiao and Mayweather I'm far more impressed by the fact Pacquiao can launch an offensive in positions that no other fighter would even be able to cover up to defend themselves, let alone throw punches with as much precision and power as if they were thrown in textbook fashion.
        read what I said in post #10 and thats the answer to why Pac can do alot of that ****

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          #14
          Originally posted by DLT
          Well there is 1 thing I talk about on here non stop about but no one ever cares. Its the Southpaw stance. Its by far and away the biggest advantage in boxing. Lets see how great Pac's O is if he was righty and Floyd was a Southpaw. Most people have mad trouble with Southpaws and thats a fact. Its a major advantage. There is no doubt in my mind that if Pac was a righty then he would be 0-2 against JMM easily. They can talk about all that angle **** all they want but the truth is most people dont see his **** coming because he is a Southpaw or they see it and have a perfect D for it but still get hit flush because he is a Southpaw. Floyd dont have that advantage on cats
          that angle **** = the southpaw stance

          Originally posted by Manny_P
          I'ma put it this way. Ask Floyd to not throw his left hook (just for argument sake) for this fight. No chance in hell he wins. You think he hurts Manny pop shotting his way all night with his right hand, also knowing that same hand is brittle as hell?

          If Pac somehow doesn't get hit by that left hook (not as much), he wins this fight EASY. I bet Roach is thinking the same way. Stay away from Floyd's left hook. His best, and most powerful punch......
          Floyd is good. he can win fights with either hand. don't underestimate him.

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            #15
            And the left hook is not as effective against a southpaw.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Manny_P
              I'ma put it this way. Ask Floyd to not throw his left hook (just for argument sake) for this fight. No chance in hell he wins. You think he hurts Manny pop shotting his way all night with his right hand, also knowing that same hand is brittle as hell?

              If Pac somehow doesn't get hit by that left hook (not as much), he wins this fight EASY. I bet Roach is thinking the same way. Stay away from Floyd's left hook. His best, and most powerful punch......
              Lets forget about Mo**ey Mayweather's power punches for a second.

              I think, the punch PAC and Roach need to be concerned about, is Mo**ey Mayweather's jab and I really think Roach needs to get into the ref's head when they have that rules meeting(they have it all the time before fights) about Mo**ey's clinching.

              I have bad feeling, Mo**ey's gonna do alot of hit n' clinch, a cheap way to win a fight.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Perro
                And the left hook is not as effective against a southpaw.
                that is true. It's just a weird angle to throw that punch against a lefty. And Pac gots some head movements too. Those punches will slide off Pac's shoulder many times.

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                • DLT
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                  #18
                  I bet that left hook is way bigger for Floyd in this fight then you guys think. Pac has improved but I still dont think he's a great techniqal fighter. Floyd wont jump in with it or nothing but I could see Floyd jabbing and then hooking off of it but most of all I could see Floyd throwing a leaping hook everytime Pac circles out. Cotto caught him with a big one in that fight

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by LATINOSNOBAYAG
                    Lets forget about Mo**ey Mayweather's power punches for a second.

                    I think, the punch PAC and Roach need to be concerned about, is Mo**ey Mayweather's jab and I really think Roach needs to get into the ref's head when they have that rules meeting(they have it all the time before fights) about Mo**ey's clinching.

                    I have bad feeling, Mo**ey's gonna do alot of hit n' clinch, a cheap way to win a fight.
                    well, we all know how Floyd fights. He clinches, then elbows opponents to make room, the throw a punch, and all of that. He will try to do that and Roach and Pac better be prepared once it happens.

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                    • shadeyfizzle
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DLT
                      read what I said in post #10 and thats the answer to why Pac can do alot of that ****
                      So what if he's a southpaw??? There have been literally thousands of southpaws that have come before him and havent accomplished nearly as much.

                      The reason Pac can do alot of that **** is pure inborn athleticism. Please don't get into the "IFS" because i could do the same thing.

                      If Pacquiao had gotten the quality training in the US amateur program that Floyd got i have no doubt he'd already undeniably be the greatest of all time by this point. But he's not....so deal with what we've got, not the coulda, shoulda, wouldas that ever other ***** loves to deal with.

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