If styles make fights how is Pacquiao going to beat Mayweather?

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  • J.Dempsey
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    #11
    Originally posted by S a m u r a i
    Different kinds of counter-punchers. One counters with combos, the other usually counters with single shots.
    hmmmm, thing is floyds a clever bastard he'll adapt a new strategy for pac, but I can see some openings for PAC now

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      #12
      Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
      Marquez was losing to Diaz and had a draw with Casamayor before the KO.

      Floyd is a joke. Pac fought Marquez at 126 lbs. Floyd fought Marquez by cheating the weight at 146 lbs.

      Castillo beat Floyd. Pac is 10x faster and much stronger than Castillo. Floyd will break his hand trying to block Pac's punches.

      Pac will tap Floyd's ass and put him where he belongs. RETIREMENT!
      A fair and objective insight by an unbiased poster.

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        #13
        Originally posted by S a m u r a i
        Different kinds of counter-punchers. One counters with combos, the other usually counters with single shots.

        Marquez = much more aggressive than Floyd, and Pacquiao fought Marquez in his most effective weight classes -- 126 & 130.


        WW Marquez is a joke and Floyd knew this, because, like the rest of us, he saw 135lb Marquez struggling with Juan Diaz. Any extra weight on top of that was gonna spell disaster, and this is what many of us were saying before the Floyd-Marquez fight. We were exactly right.
        Why is being more aggressive the way to beat Pac? Cotto was aggressive and it got him nothing but trouble. Marquez was aggressive and he has a draw and a loss.

        Why would Mayweather want to get in exchanges with Pacquiao?

        Who's the better counter puncher between May and Marquez?

        Who's the better fighter?

        Both fighters have thrived off of aggressive fighters, but Floyd is not aggressive himself. So what makes people believe Pacquiao has the style to beat Mayweather?

        He certainly has the speed and power, but not the defense to stop Mayweather from being very accurate and choosing his spots.

        My guess is, Mayweather will win a UD in a fight where Pacquiao just can't figure out the puzzle. He'll try and he'll have his moments as well, but ultimately it won't be enough. Just my prediction.

        Another thing. One thing that Mayweather has that most didn't against Pacquiao, is a right straight. Hatton, De La Hoya, Cotto, and others didn't have that punch as an effective weapon. Mayweather does. And that will be huge.

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          #14
          Floyd also has the best lead right hand. The punch that bothered Pacquiao in his previous fights...I can see him countering with that often.

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            #15
            Originally posted by S a m u r a i
            Different kinds of counter-punchers. One counters with combos, the other usually counters with single shots.

            Marquez = much more aggressive than Floyd, and Pacquiao fought Marquez in his most effective weight classes -- 126 & 130.

            WW Marquez is a joke and Floyd knew this, because, like the rest of us, he saw 135lb Marquez struggling with Juan Diaz. Any extra weight on top of that was gonna spell disaster, and this is what many of us were saying before the Floyd-Marquez fight. We were exactly right.
            Rest of us saw Cotto strugling at 145.

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            • Parody
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              #16
              Originally posted by dans01234
              Why is being more aggressive the way to beat Pac? Cotto was aggressive and it got him nothing but trouble. Marquez was aggressive and he has a draw and a loss.

              Why would Mayweather want to get in exchanges with Pacquiao?

              Who's the better counter puncher between May and Marquez?

              Who's the better fighter?

              Both fighters have thrived off of aggressive fighters, but Floyd is not aggressive himself. So what makes people believe Pacquiao has the style to beat Mayweather?

              He certainly has the speed and power, but not the defense to stop Mayweather from being very accurate and choosing his spots.

              My guess is, Mayweather will win a UD in a fight where Pacquiao just can't figure out the puzzle. He'll try and he'll have his moments as well, but ultimately it won't be enough. Just my prediction.

              Another thing. One thing that Mayweather has that most didn't against Pacquiao, is a right straight. Hatton, De La Hoya, Cotto, and others didn't have that punch as an effective weapon. Mayweather does. And that will be huge.
              Morales and Marquez used this

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                #17
                Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
                Marquez was losing to Diaz and had a draw with Casamayor before the KO.

                Floyd is a joke. Pac fought Marquez at 126 lbs. Floyd fought Marquez by cheating the weight at 146 lbs.

                Castillo beat Floyd. Pac is 10x faster and much stronger than Castillo. Floyd will break his hand and elbow trying to block Pac's punches.

                I predicted in the Cotto fight that Oscar Larios and David Diaz will give up more of a fight than Cotto even Hatton and DLH. I will predict that David Diaz will be tougher than Floyd. I'll bet 20 million points for Pacquiao for those who oppose.

                Pac will tap Floyd's ass and put him where he belongs. RETIREMENT!
                if your that sure bro would you take all my points to 1mill of yours that PAC does NOT stop floyd????

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                • dans
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Parody
                  Morales and Marquez used this
                  Morales used it all night in the first fight. And what happened?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by dans01234
                    Morales used it all night in the first fight. And what happened?
                    Morales won. Pacquiao is my second favourite, but I haven't seen his ability to adapt yet, I mean in the Marquez fights, Marquez did go down and he adapted to a game plan to make those two fights close, We know Floyd can adapt GREATLY after a couple of rounds, What will the game plan be for Team Pacquiao if they cant knock out Floyd in the first 4 or 5 rounds, and Floyd has figured out Pacquiao? (His style, angles, etc.) Lot of lead right hands man...I also think the more aggresive the fighter is, the more he brings the best out of Mayweather, I see Pacquiao making Floyd fight. Another thing I would like to point out is workrate doesn't work against a moving, elusive fighter. Marquez and Hatton had a great workrate but when they faced floyd it was really low compared to their other fights. Take the Pavlik vs Hopkins or Williams vs Quintana I example. Floyd can be beaten, but I dont think Manny is the one to do it, lets see.
                    Last edited by Parody; 12-11-2009, 08:36 AM.

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                    • S A M U R A I
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by GoogleMe
                      Rest of us saw Cotto strugling at 145.
                      That's because you see exactly what you want to see. Cotto would have struggled exactly the same at 147. The weight was no issue for Cotto, so why are you making excuses for him? He was not drained. Period. End of ****ing story.



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