Main Reason MMA is walking pass Boxing...

[IronFistKilla]

Here's a list of some of the elite fighters in mma.

Fedor (russian)
Silva (Brazilian/most likely part black somewhere in the familiy tree)
GSP (canadian-white)
BJ Penn (hawaiian part korean decent)
Machida (brazilian/japanese)
Shogun (brazilian)
Cro Cop (croatian)
Overeem (black)
Randleman (black)
Lesnar (white)
Noguera bros (brazilian)
Mir (white)
Kongo (go figure)
Rampage (black)
Evans (black)
Couture (white)
Vera (filipino)
Silva (brazilian)
Griffin (white)
Franklin (white)
Belfort (brazilian)
Wanderlei (brazilian)
Henderson (white)
Diaz bros (mexican)
Mousasi (armenian)
Werdum (brazilian)
Hughes (white)
Akiyama (japanese)
Yamamoto (japanese)
Sakuraba (japanese)
Ono (japanese)
Sakurai (japanese)
Lidell (white)
Ortiz (half mexican)
Frank Shamrock (mexican)
Ken Shamrock (white)
Gracies (brazilian)

looks pretty mixed to me guys... i love both sports, then can co exist like football and futbol no need to trash talk guys.

you guys are beginning to sound like old bigot arum and ignorant floyd.
its mixed MARTIAL ARTS. theres discipline involved too. its just not as pure as boxing since its mixed.

dont act like vice versa versions of the mma fans who talk **** about boxing.

Yeah this whole boxing vs mma thing is ******. But people seem to forget it was Dana White and Joe Rogan who started it back in the mid 2000's.

Not to turn this into a thread on ethnicity, but Silva is black. He is a black brazilian man.

[El Castigador]

Real men...dont kick...elbow and backhand.........

They punch.

MMA fighters fight like women..rolling around the ground looking for something to grab.......

MMA"peeleft:

[Dynamite Kid]

Its simple they are reaching more fans by holdin thier events everywhere. Boxing is damn near monopolizd by Vegas. Most people don't have the moeny to go to Vegas but if there was a fight in their city. Look at the prices for a fight in Vegas compared to everywhere else. Its like boxing is shutting the fans out and dont even realize it.

You could not be more wrong. MMA has rejuvenated the Sport and its become a more global sport.

[hypodermical]

Real men...dont kick...elbow and backhand.........

They punch.

MMA fighters fight like women..rolling around the ground looking for something to grab.......

MMA"peeleft:

im guessing you dont enjoy movies with fighting scenes either? besides rocky ofcourse..

[Vasyl’s dad]

Its simple they are reaching more fans by holdin thier events everywhere. Boxing is damn near monopolizd by Vegas. Most people don't have the moeny to go to Vegas but if there was a fight in their city. Look at the prices for a fight in Vegas compared to everywhere else. Its like boxing is shutting the fans out and dont even realize it.

What does that even mean?


Are you implying the only place to see a fight is in Vegas?

[KittenFlaps]

Its simple they are reaching more fans by holdin thier events everywhere. Boxing is damn near monopolizd by Vegas. Most people don't have the moeny to go to Vegas but if there was a fight in their city. Look at the prices for a fight in Vegas compared to everywhere else. Its like boxing is shutting the fans out and dont even realize it.

They hold boxing matches all over the world, all the time. I could probably drive within 60 miles of my house this weekend and find a fight.

Pavlik fights in Youngstown, Gatti fought in Jersey, The klits fight in Germany, Diaz fights in Texas, Minto fights in Butler, Arreola in Oakland, etc, etc, etc.

Your argument, besides being asinine, is inaccurate.

[Easy-E]

The positives of the UFC are
1) Having events across the United States (and world now, when you consider England)
2) Matchmaking...the top fighters in the division always fight each other
3) The events themselves. Filled with live undercard fights with good matchups, instead of old guys talking.


If boxing could improve on one of the three, like filling the events with better matchups and fighters it would do boxing a world of good. Nobody needs to hear Merchant, Steward and Lampley talk about "subplots and storylines" for an hour.

[Easy-E]

They hold boxing matches all over the world, all the time. I could probably drive within 60 miles of my house this weekend and find a fight.

Pavlik fights in Youngstown, Gatti fought in Jersey, The klits fight in Germany, Diaz fights in Texas, Minto fights in Butler, Arreola in Oakland, etc, etc, etc.

Your argument, besides being asinine, is inaccurate.

In terms of big fights, Vegas has a monopoly. The only reason Pav is fighting in Youngstown is because he is facing Espina.
Atlantic City is a great place to have fights, but post Gatti barley any big fights have been held there.

I think what the TS is arguing that bigger fights need to be spread across the States, which i generally agree with.

[KittenFlaps]

In terms of big fights, Vegas has a monopoly. The only reason Pav is fighting in Youngstown is because he is facing Espina.
Atlantic City is a great place to have fights, but post Gatti barley any big fights have been held there.

I think what the TS is arguing that bigger fights need to be spread across the States, which i generally agree with.

And I don't disagree with wanting the big fights someplace near me. I'd love it. Doesn't change the fact that fighters still fight all over the world/US on a regular basis.

The big fights are held in Vegas for financial reasons.

-Money made from the venues bidding on the fight.
-Money made on the LEGAL ********.
-Incredibly overpriced tickets sell better because people visiting Vegas are already expecting to spend all their money in extravagant ways.

If anything the one thing boxing should be doing is making their "big events" big events by showing tons of quality fights on the undercards (as you both mentioned). The one thing I would hate to see boxing do is flood the market with PPVs the way MMA does.