To be honest{tito} at 147 was a monster

[DLT]

Hopkins and Winky were MWs man... Tito didn't have the power at 160 that he did at 147. Tito was drained during the Oscar fight as well and still won. He was starving himself for 2yrs trying to make 147 just to fight Oscar. That is why there was always talks of him moving up to 154 sooner to fight Terry Norris. And, it was going to happed that is why Tito went up to 154 to fight Troy Walters as a tune up. But, then Norris lost so Tito went back down and pretty much was drained throughout the rest of his WW campaign. And, still was able to beat a prime Oscar. And, let me ask you this has Floyd ever fought somebody who was as good a prime WW Trinidad? And I am talking about the 1993-1996 version of Trinidad....

Has Tito ever beat anyone as good as a prime Floyd or even came close to? Hell NO. Floyd is about to beat someone now better than a prime Tito. Also, Hopkins was big but Winky wasnt. They were the same size, Tito just fought at WW. I always thought Vargas wouldve beat him if he were more experinced and wouldve stuck to boxing. When he was boxing he was killing Tito. Thats just not good enough for me to pick him over Floyd. He definatly has the size & power but he was flawed. Plus again, he still loses some points to me for that glove thing. I dont have official proof but it just seems a little weird

[nostrezz]

Shut up... You don't know what you are talking about. You deserve a red k for that dumb ****.

circumstantial evidence. It's just that he wasnt caught

[jrosales13]

circumstantial evidence. It's just that he wasnt caught

WTF? What was the circumstantial evidence? Please explain?

[jrosales13]

Has Tito ever beat anyone as good as a prime Floyd or even came close to? Hell NO. Floyd is about to beat someone now better than a prime Tito. Also, Hopkins was big but Winky wasnt. They were the same size, Tito just fought at WW. I always thought Vargas wouldve beat him if he were more experinced and wouldve stuck to boxing. When he was boxing he was killing Tito. Thats just not good enough for me to pick him over Floyd. He definatly has the size & power but he was flawed. Plus again, he still loses some points to me for that glove thing. I dont have official proof but it just seems a little weird

IMO a prime Oscar at 147 is better than Floyd at 147. So to answer your question yes he has. Tito has no power at 160. And, Winky fought fought to a draw against the lineal MW champ who was coming off 2 victories over Hopkins. So Winky was actually a better MW than Tito. Tito didn't have the the power at 160. And, how much experienced did you want Vargas to have? He fought on even terms with a prime Winky Wright. And, no I disagree Pac is not better at 147 than Tito was. IMO Tito at 147 KO's Pac as well.

And, BTW "about to beat someone now better" Does not account. Let's not go with fantasy lets talk reality... And, there was no glove thing. What was a lil weird about it?

[Kevin Jesus]

People saying floyd would win against tito, well that would be one to see because tito was undefeated as well and he could walk you down and hit you all over... Tito had a right hand as well but his left was the bomb... Everyone tito faced at 147 he destroyed so, his invincibility was the sht... It would be interesting to see how mayweather would fair against tito... Me personnally would give the edge to tito and i know every boxer he faced he lost to but, he was undefeated and a hard fight... Tito by k.o....

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[Kevin Jesus]

Those who are saying that Tito would beat Floyd at WW, explain yourselves please. How does a come-forward fighter that was known to have one weapon(left) beat a complete boxer like Floyd?

Please explain exactly how the win would come off.

"Tit0 w0uld beatz Fl0yd cuz I rememba tit0 w@s walkin ni99az d0wn @t 147"

^That **** does not cut it. Explain like a true boxing fan.

Side note, I love Tito too. I rooted for Tito against Oscar tbh then I became more of a Oscar fan after that fight.

[DLT]

IMO a prime Oscar at 147 is better than Floyd at 147. So to answer your question yes he has. Tito has no power at 160. And, Winky fought fought to a draw against the lineal MW champ who was coming off 2 victories over Hopkins. So Winky was actually a better MW than Tito. Tito didn't have the the power at 160. And, how much experienced did you want Vargas to have? He fought on even terms with a prime Winky Wright. And, no I disagree Pac is not better at 147 than Tito was. IMO Tito at 147 KO's Pac as well.

And, BTW "about to beat someone now better" Does not account. Let's not go with fantasy lets talk reality... And, there was no glove thing. What was a lil weird about it?

you ask me has Floyd ever beat anyone better than a prime Tito and then you talk about Fantasy. Which one is it? Pac is better than Tito. He's rated higher than Tito in any way. You can say that Pac isnt better at WW but you dont know that and if you go size for size then Pac-Floyd is like Oscar-Tito. How did Vargas beat a prime Winky? He fought him in 99. Prime Winky was 04. The 99 Winky was still having most of his fights in Europe and wasnt half as good as the Winky who fought Shane. Winky didnt have a big name at that time. However, Im not dissing the win. I think Vargas was good but the man only had 20 fights and was 22 years old at the time of the fight. Everyone felt that he was rushed. Thats why I think a more experinced Vargas wins. Winky beat Taylor but alot of people also think Spinks beat Taylor and he came from WW so lets not act like Winky was huge at the weight

[NAPO]

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You fight for 12 Round Moron not 6.

[NAPO]

Has Tito ever beat anyone as good as a prime Floyd or even came close to? Hell NO. Floyd is about to beat someone now better than a prime Tito. Also, Hopkins was big but Winky wasnt. They were the same size, Tito just fought at WW. I always thought Vargas wouldve beat him if he were more experinced and wouldve stuck to boxing. When he was boxing he was killing Tito. Thats just not good enough for me to pick him over Floyd. He definatly has the size & power but he was flawed. Plus again, he still loses some points to me for that glove thing. I dont have official proof but it just seems a little weird

I understand you sticking for you black fighters and all.

But floyd wouldn't have a chance against Trinidad.

His 3 Losses has been against boxer but with igh rate punching.

Floyd barely throws 30 punches per round, how is that supposed to stop Trinidad in walking Mayweather down?

Even with overrated Hatton Floyd was very uncomfortable.

[DLT]

I understand you sticking for you black fighters and all.

But floyd wouldn't have a chance against Trinidad.

His 3 Losses has been against boxer but with igh rate punching.

Floyd barely throws 30 punches per round, how is that supposed to stop Trinidad in walking Mayweather down?

Even with overrated Hatton Floyd was very uncomfortable.

He wasnt uncomfortable with Hatton. People talk about that fight way too much like they never even saw it. If you saw it then you know that Hatton was just smothering Floyd like an idiot. The whole fight even Manny Steward and Hatton's on trainer was saying that he's smothering Floyd so much that he cant even get off his own punches but he knew he had to do that because anytime there was any seperation, Floyd was killing him.

People always talk about Floyd's punch output like he's going to lose. Thats all they say. Have you ever thought about the fact that maybe he also will make those guys punch output drop with his style and also that his output will go up against them because of there stalking style that forces action and leaves them wide open? Tito's D ****** and he got dropped a bunch. If you think he is going to have an easy time following a faster Floyd around who is a great defensive fighter and land shots on him with nothing coming back then you are crazy. Tito has to be set to throw. He never even lets his hands go if you move. Hopkins doesnt throw much more than Floyd