WBA hvywgt. Mismatches

**number6** · 04-19-2005, 02:24 PM

Rid**** Bowe v michael dokes + jesse fergerson.
I'm a Bowe fan but these were bad mismatches.

**Dynamite76** · 05-02-2005, 12:52 PM

Page vs Coetzee

**Super_Lightweight** · 05-02-2005, 01:00 PM

hmm

Ruiz-Toney doesn't fall into the same category as the others, and that's not hatin'...it's just the truth. Toney looked like he might lose as the first half of the fight was dead even. Then Toney pulled away slowly as an out-of-shape Ruiz faded quickly at the end.

Toney is a good fighter but he needs to come in shape next time.

**SacTown1** · 05-02-2005, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Super_Lightweight

Ruiz-Toney doesn't fall into the same category as the others, and that's not hatin'...it's just the truth. Toney looked like he might lose as the first half of the fight was dead even. Then Toney pulled away slowly as an out-of-shape Ruiz faded quickly at the end.

Toney is a good fighter but he needs to come in shape next time.

why should he be in better shape? He won 8 outta 12 rounds, shoot he might as well be chubby, physique doesn't win fights, perfect counter-punching does...leave it up to a Jones fan to criticize a fighter's physique, not everyone can have bulging muscles in every area of their body, even Roy said himself that James shoulda gone up to heavyweight a decade ago

plus, a belly doesn't mean your outta shape, it just means you got a belly, nobody's calling Warren Sapp out-of-shape, he's jsut a big dude

**The Pretender** · 05-02-2005, 01:12 PM

Another Ruiz hater. Ruiz was ROBBED! He won 10 out of 12 rds.

**Super_Lightweight** · 05-02-2005, 01:14 PM

hmm

why should he be in better shape? He won 8 outta 12 rounds, shoot he might as well be chubby, physique doesn't win fights, perfect counter-punching does...leave it up to a Jones fan to criticize a fighter's physique, not everyone can have bulging muscles in every area of their body, even Roy said himself that James shoulda gone up to heavyweight a decade ago

plus, a belly doesn't mean your outta shape, it just means you got a belly, nobody's calling Warren Sapp out-of-shape, he's jsut a big dude

You seriously need to calm down. Don't hate on me, we've agreed plenty in the past but you are just plain wrong here. You think Toney won 8 rounds, and that's fine, but that doesn't equate to domination. Toney was OBVIOUSLY not in the greatest shape. He was less active and fatter than usual. He looked better and stronger and more fit vs Holyfield and Booker even. He needs to be in that kind of shape to continue to have success in the heavyweight division. Jones can say whatever he wants about Toney fighting at heavyweight, that's his opinion. Toney added on muscle to become a bigger heavyweight, so no, he is not a natural heavyweight. If he ran, dieted, and trained like most people he would stay at cruiserweight.

I'm a FAN of Toney and was glad he won, but don't sit here and tell me he owned Ruiz or it was a total mismatch. He didn't KO him or even knock him down for real. He only began to outbox him after 6 or 7 rounds.

Toney only had 4.5 weeks to get ready, and that's a fair reason to not be in the best shape. It's legit in my eyes so I expect him to be in better shape when he fights a guy like Byrd or Klitschko.

**Kid Achilles** · 05-02-2005, 01:19 PM

Toney is in horrible shape and it's not genetic. The guy has an eating problem and everything in boxing knows it. If he had even a little bit of self control he'd be down at 210-215.

**SacTown1** · 05-02-2005, 01:33 PM

all the skinny boyz, hatin' on fat guys who kick a$$, sad stuff, I was taught 2 never judge a book by its cover, but hey my wife watches Roy and Oscar fights because she thinks they're gorgeous, so I guess I can't blame you guys for doin the same thing....

Toney just won his 4th title belt, closed the show with a vengeance, did everything he had to do, and you guys are commenting on his belly, cryin' shame man

**Super_Lightweight** · 05-02-2005, 01:36 PM

hmm

No one is hatin' or talkin' trash but you, and that is all we are responding to. Save your little ****-****** claims for middle school.

WBA hvywgt. Mismatches