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  • Nuurzhaelan
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    #11
    Originally posted by Sparked_1985
    I came to this conclusion after the Khan fight and the extremely positive (certainly on this board) reaction he recieved from our American cousins.

    Does the American fight fan value knockouts more than anyone else?

    Because as a Khan fan, he didn't really show me too much I didn't already know. Apart from the way he didn't just spoil his own work after he had Salita hurt. I knew Khan could punch when he sat down on his punches. I knew Khan was unbelievably fast. I knew Khan was accurate. I knew all these things. He's displayed them all before, before Prescott, and before Freddie Roach. He's shown them against fighters like Michael Gomez and Graham Earl and we can't for definete say that Salita is better than either of those two men.

    On the undercard. Kevin Mitchell managed to emerge from fighting Breidis Prescott with Prescott managing to land just 11% of his punches and most of those landed to the body. Kevin Mitchell was a guy that so far in his career had only showed an appetite for war and would take and give punishment. He was a front foot fighter, he never took a backward step. When he got hurt it was a red rag to a bull - he'd start swinging for the cheap seats. Cue, the Prescott fight and a change to boxing off the backfoot for large periods and -Prescott couldn't hit him with anything. And, when he did. What happened?......nothing, absolutely nothing. Not a blink, not a grimace. Nothing.

    I can't help but feel Kevin showed us far far more than Amir Khan did. I guess this is a global forum, so Kevin might end up getting more praise in the British boxing publications.

    But Mitchell to me was more impressive. He showed an ability to stick to a gameplan. An iron chin. A great defence. A big heart to take risks to get inside and land bombs on his man and ultimately back up and batter the bigger man.

    All this in his first fight at a new weight against the biggest guy in the division.

    Anyway. It's understandable as there is more hype about Khan, but he got more praise than I expected. I guess Americans really love those knockouts.

    British fans tend to value heart over most things like the Mexicans. What are the characteristics other nations?
    It's called culture. People are taught to like certain things and many of them are conditioned to it over time.

    I cannot, for the LIFE of me, understand why certain sports (particularly in the USA) are popular, but they are. The only sports I like are Boxing, strength sports, soccer (football). I absolutely loathe baseball and basketball and (american) football bore me beyond imagining.

    In Boxing I like boxer punchers. I do not like maulers and I hate clinchers, B-O-R-I-N-G!!! My favorite fighters tend not to be Americans, though Mayweather and Jones are.

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    • sunny31
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      #12
      I thought mitchell was brilliant, iv always believed in him and I think he will be a world champ. In terms of performance its hard to judge because how quickly khan won, if he had boxed cirlces around salita and then knocked him out (which would have happened had salita been able to stay on his feet) then he probably would have had the performance of the night.

      I do believe american's in particular put waaaay too much emphasis on knock-outs, and are guilty of over-rating big punchers. American crowds often get too impatient with skillful boxers also, but there are plenty of great american fans, I am british but I love watching technical boxers with fluent combination punching, 2 of my fav over the last few years are miguel cotto and juan manuel marquez.

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      • S H O B O X
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        #13
        i dont know about most people here but i was impressed with both performances , kevin's for the reasons the ts has stated , sticking to a gameplan , being able to push the bigger man back etc. I always expected khan to win but not in the the first round.

        The reason i think most americans are impressed with khan's win moreso than kevin's is that khan's last two fights have gone to decisions due to khan moving and throwing weak flurries (due to not sitting down on his punches) . When i was looking at most comments before the fight quite a few americans were picking khan to win a lopsided decision or by late stoppage. This may be due to the fact that a lots of people thought roach had changed khan to a safety first fighter and he would just box dimitriy but he impressed beacause of the combination of power and speed that hadn't shown in his last two performances.

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          Mongolians value toughness.

          When you ride on horseback 100 miles a day and you have the legacy of Genghis Khan in your history you tend to value the tough.

          Lavka Sim fits the bill nicely. No way was anyone knocking him out.

          I think the motorcycle gang, the Mongols valued the toughness of the real Mongols and imitated them in their name.

          WAR MONGOLS.



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          • Smokin'J
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            #15
            Turkish also like durability as overcoming and conquering your opponent for 12 rounds, but the most usual fans like a war and a sudden KD or a KO

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            • Sparked_1985
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              #16
              As a generalisation what do Puerto Ricans value in their fighters

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                #17
                Originally posted by Sparked_1985
                I came to this conclusion after the Khan fight and the extremely positive (certainly on this board) reaction he recieved from our American cousins.

                Does the American fight fan value knockouts more than anyone else?

                Because as a Khan fan, he didn't really show me too much I didn't already know. Apart from the way he didn't just spoil his own work after he had Salita hurt. I knew Khan could punch when he sat down on his punches. I knew Khan was unbelievably fast. I knew Khan was accurate. I knew all these things. He's displayed them all before, before Prescott, and before Freddie Roach. He's shown them against fighters like Michael Gomez and Graham Earl and we can't for definete say that Salita is better than either of those two men.

                On the undercard. Kevin Mitchell managed to emerge from fighting Breidis Prescott with Prescott managing to land just 11% of his punches and most of those landed to the body. Kevin Mitchell was a guy that so far in his career had only showed an appetite for war and would take and give punishment. He was a front foot fighter, he never took a backward step. When he got hurt it was a red rag to a bull - he'd start swinging for the cheap seats. Cue, the Prescott fight and a change to boxing off the backfoot for large periods and -Prescott couldn't hit him with anything. And, when he did. What happened?......nothing, absolutely nothing. Not a blink, not a grimace. Nothing.

                I can't help but feel Kevin showed us far far more than Amir Khan did. I guess this is a global forum, so Kevin might end up getting more praise in the British boxing publications.

                But Mitchell to me was more impressive. He showed an ability to stick to a gameplan. An iron chin. A great defence. A big heart to take risks to get inside and land bombs on his man and ultimately back up and batter the bigger man.

                All this in his first fight at a new weight against the biggest guy in the division.

                Anyway. It's understandable as there is more hype about Khan, but he got more praise than I expected. I guess Americans really love those knockouts.

                British fans tend to value heart over most things like the Mexicans. What are the characteristics other nations?
                I think America is devided with style.Half of the people value knockouts whilst half value the athleticism,ring genaralship,movement and defence.People tend to react to markets and probably explains why many American fighters are elusive as opposed to the straight in your face flat footed British style.It is easy to tell what people want like half of the people enjoy watching Mayweather fighting but half enjoy watching the sluggers.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Sparked_1985
                  As a generalisation what do Puerto Ricans value in their fighters
                  They value fighters who don't answer to the final bell and always look at the cowardly way out

                  For example.
                  Hopkins-Tito, they loved Tito for not wanting to finish the fight
                  Cotto-Pac, they respect Cotto for being KO'd.
                  Cotto-Margarito, they love the fact Cotto didn't care about his respect when he took two knees in front of his fans

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                  • Steve Harvey
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Riley
                    They value fighters who don't answer to the final bell and always look at the cowardly way out

                    For example.
                    Hopkins-Tito, they loved Tito for not wanting to finish the fight
                    Cotto-Pac, they respect Cotto for being KO'd.
                    Cotto-Margarito, they love the fact Cotto didn't care about his respect when he took two knees in front of his fans
                    What's that on your avatar?

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                    • The_Demon
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                      #20
                      in safe too say that the americans find it hard too be impressed by british fighters,i know it sounds ******,hell it is ******,but its true
                      but its cool real boxing fans arent bothered about nationality and their are a few on here,you just have too ignore the haters i suppose

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