Comments Thread For: Calzaghe Wants To See David Haye Fight The Klitschkos

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Joe Calzaghe would like to see his countryman WBA heavyweight champion David Haye fight both of Klitschko brothers in 2010; WBO/IBO/IBF champion Wladimir and WBC champion Vitali. Calzaghe feels that Haye has the skill to fight and beat the brothers but warns that both fighters will be far tougher than the 7'2 giant Nikolai Valuev, who Calzaghe doesn't think could fight very much. Haye must first meet and beat WBA mandatory John Ruiz. [Click Here To Read More]

Haye has no chance against either Klitschko, regardless of his "barely sc****d by" win against Valuev. John Ruiz is "no joke", and should test him severely, even though he's long past his best, and is about 37 years old.

I'm surprised at Calzaghe's Roach-like comments. Doesn't he know that Haye has no chance of beating either Klitschko by boxing, and certainly not by brawling. The K Brothers fhave excellent footwork, and can cut off the ring in a masterful way.

This alone, would indicate that Haye can't make the fight at a distance, unless the K Bros. want to "just box". And if they do, they are far better boxers than Haye, each also carrying a KO punch in either glove.

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lol. Hyde got owned

[Roger Mellie]

lol. Hyde got owned

Owned and banned! happy days!

[edgarg]

Antonio Tarver was the FAVORITE to win.
Kelly Pavlik was the FAVORITE to win.
Glen Johnson was undeafeted at the time, though I admit he has been much better at light heavyweight.
Winky Wright, no arguments with what you said.
Oscar De La Hoya, blown up lw? give me a break, he had won titles at light middleweight and middleweight. offcourse it wasn't his best weight but a blown up lw? gtfoh.

Apart from his loss against Jones all where close and could have gone either way. I had Hopkins winning against Calzaghe, many people had him winning that fight aswell. Associated Press and ESPN both scored it 114-113 to Hopkins. And I think he should have gotten the win in atleast 1 of the Taylor fights.

Hopkins won against Calzaghe.........??????????

NO WAY! Calzaghe won "going away". Hopkins just doesn't have it. He's a spoiler, a sort of octopus-like clutcher /head butt expert, who hasn't had an attractive fight in his whole career, excluding the fight with Trinidad, a pumped up Welterweight. Hopkins a diet restricted light-heavyweight.

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Yes,
I agree that Oscar fought the best. Ge lost to the best wheb they were in their prime, and won when they were over -the-hill.
Like the list you made, except for Oba Carr, they were on the downside of their careers, or
Oscar has some great physical advantage.........like against Juloio Cezar Chavez.

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Ok, I will step and say it Oscar was overrated. And why do I say this? He fought and beat Chavez when he was around the century mark and in the same time frame when Chavez was being dominated by a fighter by the name of Willy Wise. So, obviously Chavez was way way past his prime. Oscar also beat an old Sweet Pea who happened to never win another fight after he lost to Oscar. He also beat an old Camacho who has had a long career after he lost to Oscar but his only notable win happened be over a 50 year old Duran. Also, Oscar's record from 1999 to 2008 was 8-6 and sure he could beat the limited fighters such as Arturo Gatti but he lost to all the real world class fighters he fought. And it is my opinion that he should have been 7-7 because Sturm also beat him. So, I for one believe Oscar to be way overrated and no one did it here but comparing Oscar to multi division champions such as Henry Armstrong is not only laughable it is also a disgrace.

It'as strange to see that you and I have amost the same opinion about Oscar.

[ChopperRead]

I would love more then anyone to see Haye KO John "Snuggie" Ruiz but there is no way that John Ruiz will be an easy fight for Haye...

Ruiz has reportedly discarded the huggy bear tactics these days and is going for the KO. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ruiz KO Haye at all. Looking past Ruiz is a very dumb thing to do. Haye's problem is that he's likely to get exposed long before he gets another shot at Wlad or Vitali ... since he already had two chances and turned both down. And let's not forget that Valuev has a mandated rematch: you can bet he'll demand a smaller ring next time.

[Stick_and_move]

Ruiz has reportedly discarded the huggy bear tactics these days and is going for the KO. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ruiz KO Haye at all. Looking past Ruiz is a very dumb thing to do. Haye's problem is that he's likely to get exposed long before he gets another shot at Wlad or Vitali ... since he already had two chances and turned both down. And let's not forget that Valuev has a mandated rematch: you can bet he'll demand a smaller ring next time.

Well said. Pat yourself on the back.

[Ravens Fan]

Oscar didn't just fought some "good" fighters, he fought the very best time after time. He fought JCC, Whitaker, Mosley(x2), Trinidad, Hopkins, Mayweather, Pacquiao. He fought all the great fighters of our generation.

Except from the Hopkins and Pacquiao fights most of his losses where tight, he should have gotten the win against Trinidad and Mosley(2) in my oppinion.

And again this isn't about Armstrong. I have never disputed his greatness, infact I haven't brough him up until now. He is in my oppinion the second greatest fighter of all time behind Sugar Ray Robinson but thats not the point, the point is that ODLH is greater than Joe Calzaghe. And I honestly don't see how that can even by disputed.

I never even mentioned Calzaghe so why are you even talking to me?
But what the hell I will now. I never even thought about comparing Joe to Oscar but you all act as if Joe accomplished nothing. And I will ask that you show me anyone's record who defended a title fifteen to twenty five times that did not have a good amount of soft competition on it. Even Hopkins middle weight run had plenty of soft challengers on it. Example he defended the middleweight belt three times against a guy named Robert Allen, who? And as far as Joe staying in Europe he did nothing different then most Europeans have done when winning world titles. So, does that mean the likes of Nino Bevenuti are bums because they fought most of their career in their home country? Now, to look at Joe's career.

I will start with the Super Middleweights. Joe did something most fans want to happen he unified the division by fighting Lacy and Kessler and he still gets little credit. And maybe Lacy was not the best fighter but he was ranked high at the time and was considered a dangerous belt holder that many thought would destroy Joe and then the opposite happened. And I don't care what anyone says Lacy was not the same fighter after Joe whooped his a$$. Then Joe defends the title against Bika who still happens to be ranked fifth in the world and then he fights Kessler for the WBC strap. So, please tell me what else was he supposed to do other then to unify the division by fighting two dangerous opponents? And who else was he supposed to fight at Super Middle?

And as far as Joe's opponents being exposed is crock of crap. Kessler loses to Joe and the Dane does not have a meaningful fight for a couple of years while tangled up in a legal dispute. And then he loses to a fighter who out boxed him just as Joe did. Yet, Andre gets all the praise for beating a fighter that Joe beat two years earlier and Joe somehow gets discredited. Please, does that really make any sense? And far as Jones being exposed how could that have happened when everyone on the planet already knew he can't take a punch. And if nothing else Green is a former champ whos only loses were to two other former champs and he has the kryptonite to befall Jones and that would be his heavy hands. And by the way I remember plenty of folks picken Jones to beat Calzaghe. And I guess the reason they picked him was because they figured that Joe could not hurt him and would never outbox him and again the opposite happens. And something happened to Jones that had never happened he when was totaly out boxed by Joe. And it was not like a re-run of a young Marciano blowing out an old Louis it was a 36 year old beating the the stuffing out of a man just a couple of years older then himself. And as far as Green is concerned did anyone really believe that he would have out boxed Jones if the fight went the distance? I know you all thought no.

And as far as Joe moving up to challenge Hopkins, I will ask again who else was he supposed to fight. He moved up and fought the lineal and Ring light heavy champ and again many thought Joe would lose. And in my opinion I don't know how anyone who knows much about boxing can say that the fight was even close. I thought Joe dominated him and won easy. I even believe that Joe hurt Hopkins and if not for the phantom low blow who knows what would have happened. And then he fought Jones who was still rated in the top five and again many picked Jones to win and what does Joe do? He does something no one had ever done before and boxed circles around him. I already said that didn't I?

I will also say that I have no idea why some fights were not made between Joe and Jones and Hopkins earlier. I have heard so much speculation and that is was the fault of both sides and I imagine, like anything else, the truth is to be found somewhere in the middle.

In closing I will have to say, and I believe most of you would agree, that Hopkins and Kessler, Sika and even Jones can still beat many of the top ten opponents in their divisions. So, most would agree that they are still world class fighters and for such an over rated fighter Joe Calzaghe sure won a lot when he was suppose to lose.

[Ravens Fan]

It'as strange to see that you and I have amost the same opinion about Oscar.

And I believe we may have the same opinion on Haye and Calzaghe. So, just maybe we are more alike then we are different. Have a safe holiday!!