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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #11
    Originally posted by Syf
    I remember Al Haymon used to bag on Pac alot..but most of his stuff was about pay per view numbers.. or ratings.. stuff like that.

    Plus he had a intellectually sarcastic edge..

    Havent read a bunch of GG Marquez posts, but from what I have I didn't see that same style...

    Guess he changed it up a bit
    They're not the same people. Clear difference between the 2.

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    • rao007
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      #12
      Maybe. I got this feeling it's him. Maybe he wants to be more sublte about it.

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      • tesla_power
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        #13
        Originally posted by rao007
        That is my guess at the moment. I was wondering why the sudden steroid allegations and an avatar of Imelda Marcos. And Al Haymon is the only other person who ignored my posts consistently during an active discussion. And it's funny GG Marquez joined only in November and already has 800 posts while I've been here since June. I don't know if that adds up but his points are almost IDENTICAL to Al Haymon's. And I remember Al Haymon usually sent me a message during a discussion which GG Marquez did recently.
        I do not think so man. GG Marquez is hell bent of steroid usage or cauliflower ears. Al Haymon is hell bent on PPV and boxing business. GG Marquez could discuss boxing better than Al Haymon. But if he starts putting posters on ignore, you got your man.

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        • The Great Shark
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          #14
          Post count means nothing. I've been here since 2007.

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          • rao007
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            #15
            Look at the words being used here which Burner got from GG Marquez, conveniently. He talked about the supposed "hotbed" of steroid use in the WCG. Talked about fighers associated with Roach. Talked about physical inferiority of Asians--I mean, these are EXACTLY the points Al Haymon made in a previous thread.

            1) Manny Pacquiao went from being a good/solid puncher who wasn't devastating opponents at 130 to being a one-punch guy who is KO'ing bigger men. Manny went 12 rounds with Oscar Larios (a 122 pounder moving up two divisions) but then he KO'd Miguel Cotto. In a short span of time.

            I find it odd that the guy who couldn't drop a shot MAB two years ago can now KO David Tua. That is an observation.

            2) Juan Manuel Marquez landed flush on Pac, and stunned/hurt Pac. Miguel Cotto landed flush on Pac to no effect. Observation.

            3) The Wild Card Gym is a hotbed of steroid activity. Many of the athletes at WCG are steroid users. That is fact.

            4) Freddie Roach's other fighters have used steroids previously. That is also documented fact.

            5) Some of the guys that Freddie Roach considers as closest to him are chronic steroid abusers: Mickey Rourke and Sylvester Stallone for example. Documented fact.

            6) Pac's head and hands seemed to have gotten bigger. That has been observed by a lot of people. That is also an indicator of mild acro, which is a hGH side effect. That is a widespread observation. to the extent that cartoons and caricatures were made on boxing boards - even before the steroid revelations arose.

            7) Pac's genetics would not seem to indicate this type of physicality. His mother, his father, his brother. Looking more broadly, Pac would be a statistical outlier as an Asian welterweight. This is not a racist/xenophobic statement, but rather a statement of statistical fact.

            8) I went to college on a wrestling scholarship and I wrestled at a high level. I have made weight A LOT, moved up in weight and been around A LOT of guys who have made weight. The ascent of Pac's physiology seems odd. To not piss people off, let me put it in a positive way, and the way that the commentators have: he seems 'one in a million'. This is an observation.

            9) What we have seen is that when something seems too good to be true recently, it HAS been. I look at guys within boxing who moved up alot in weight: Mosley (roider) Jones (roider), Holyfield (roider), Pazienza (roider), etc. This is fact.

            10) The Philippines are not well known for steroids. Unlike what PBF said. But the PI is well known for a healthcare culture. Many of the immigrants to the US have health-related backgrounds. I've met eleventy billion Filipino nurses, for example. And knocked off a few. Anyway, the Asian Rim (the geographic region, not the sexual trick) does have a thriving market in illicit pharmaceuticals , including steroids, insulin, supplements, bootleg pharma, etc. Most commonly, imported from Chinese labs. This is spec with a basis in fact.

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            • barafranca
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              #16
              That's impossible....

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              • tibbar
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                #17
                Originally posted by TheGreatShark
                Post count means nothing. I've been here since 2007.
                and ive been here since 2006. hes probably his brother

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                • rao007
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by tibbar
                  and ive been here since 2006. hes probably his brother
                  What I'm saying, he posted a lot in a short span. Just circumstantial evidence. I suppose.

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                  • tesla_power
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by rao007
                    What I'm saying, he posted a lot in a short span. Just circumstantial evidence. I suppose.
                    You could make it a "mountain of circumstantial" evidence.

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                    • rao007
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by tesla_power
                      You could make it a "mountain of circumstantial" evidence.
                      I guess, but he's posting like a regular. He only joined like 17 day ago. 800 posts already?

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