Where did all the Kessler "fans" go? They've all vanished.....

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  • hookoutofhell
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    #31
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
    ^^^^^^^^^^This is my exact feelings!
    would be interested on your opinion on kess bat...

    personally heres a few points i want to make about the fight

    1) VERSATILITY AND CONFIDENCE? - kess needs to show more versatility and dare i say it more confidence in his abilities. there were times when the lead left hook and lead right hand were on but kess didn't throw them.....maybe he underestimates just how quick his hands are. there were other moments in the fight were kess should have also let his hands go - i.e. when at mid range i remember thinking if he 'shoeshines' here he can land something on ward but kess didn't.

    there were also occasions where he looked extremely basic!! there were opportunities for an overhand right but kess only seemed to be able to shoot the right hand in a straight line!!!!!!

    2) HIS TEAM: imo his team let him down again the other day. imo a good corner team needs to watch the fight closely and look for opportunites while simultaneously warning their own man of mistakes that he was making. his team should have warned him about backing up in straight lines and then getting caught after the break. they should have told him to feint to the head and go to the body to slow ward and to land the lead left hook and then follow it up with the right hand quickly.

    this is not just me being wise after the event - these were all points i made after the fight (check post history if you want).

    however despite a humbling loss i don't think kess should lose too much faith, you don't become a bad boxer overnight, he still has some talent but he needs to believe in himself and his abilties more (heres where manny comes in, see below). if theres any consolation its that he is fighting the perfect fight next, he is fighting a guy tailor made for him, in his own country and could come out with a belt at the end of it!!!

    personally i think the recruitment of manny will work wonders.

    manny would add some much needed experience and nous to the corner team, he offers good advice throughout the fight and would instantly command the respect of everyone in camp kess. manny has worked with good fighters before and made them great (lewis, vlad), manny has worked with good 1-2 fighters and has added a level of depth and versatility to them.

    i think manny also has some fire in him as well and i think kess needs that, sometimes he seems a bit naive and hopefully manny will get him riled up and make him adopt a fighters mindset rather than a boxers mindset.

    i also think manny could teach kess a few things i.e. using the elbow to set up the right uppercut on the inside, how to feint, bodywork etc.

    i've commented beforehand on manny and kess being a good fit for ewach other, check my post history if you want. your thoughts bat?

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    • Lead Cenobite
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      #32
      Originally posted by Songbird
      One day you will wake up and realise how much time youve wasted with your calzaghe obsession, the light will suddenly come on and you will go into hiding

      Kesslers just another fighter who has lost a fight, it will happen to ward too and nearly all of them
      You must not have been around long enough to experience that "fun" on this forum.

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      • Motofan
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        #33
        Im still a fan. He just got beat up. It happens when you arent afraid to fight good fighters.

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        • Lead Cenobite
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          #34
          Originally posted by Motofan
          Im still a fan. He just got beat up. It happens when you arent afraid to fight good fighters.
          If you are in a tournament how would you avoid that exactly?

          He's spent a pretty long time up to this point avoiding good fighters.

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          • Motofan
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            #35
            Originally posted by Lead Cenobite
            If you are in a tournament how would you avoid that exactly?

            He's spent a pretty long time up to this point avoiding good fighters.
            You do that by entering the tourny.

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            • GoogleMe
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              #36
              Originally posted by lead cenobite
              if you are in a tournament how would you avoid that exactly?

              He's spent a pretty long time up to this point avoiding good fighters.
              who on earth has he avoided?!?

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              • Lead Cenobite
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                #37
                Originally posted by GoogleMe
                who on earth has he avoided?!?
                Not "avoided" as in the traditional sense of the word. Just has not fought and beat anyone of note

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                • Bhopreign
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Lead Cenobite
                  Now this excludes real Kessler fans like Bat and Kessler who I respect, but what happened to the rest of you guys?

                  Every day for the last couple of years (ever since he fought Joe coincidentally) they were on here hyping him up, saying he was not just a good but a GREAT fighter, writing ridiculous essays about how he was going to be great and everyone was ducking him.

                  My theory has always been that these were mostly insecure Joe fandorks that were trying to turn Kessler into an ATG to justify Calzaghe's pathetically weak career in terms of competition...

                  So where are you guys? How do you feel after Kessler lost to Ward? What are the excuses? What does that say about Joe?
                  Their Ward fans now.

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                  • Lead Cenobite
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bhopreign
                    Their Ward fans now.
                    lol, what?

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                    • Gojira
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                      #40
                      wasnt everyone saying that kessler would easily win the tourny?

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