Pavlik at fault if Williams loses...

**-Boxzilla-** · 12-05-2009, 02:15 PM

if pwill is truly a p4p he shouldnt lose and there shouldnt really be any excuses if he does.

that would be taking away something from martinez who has giant watermelon sized balls for fighting the most feared man in boxing on short notice above his best weight class. if sergio wins i think he deserves all the credit in the world ... if pwill loses it would prob just be confirmation that he doesnt fight slick southpaw movers very well ...

**el malo** · 12-05-2009, 02:17 PM

No but **** pavlik for canceling on Paul.

**Zarco** · 12-05-2009, 02:20 PM

both took the fight on short notice, williams had a little over a month to adjust to new opponent, martinez had a little over a month to adjust to new opponent. no excuses whatsoever.

**ADozenArrows** · 12-05-2009, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by P.WILL

Paul Williams was ready to rock with Pavlik until he pulled out
now a slick southpaw replaces Pavlik and maybe, just maybe this affected Williams mental and physical training, i dont think this will be the case the Punisher had his bad night already and will never underestimate someone ever again

williams by punishment

Martinez is the complete opposite of Pavlik. I hope PWill pulls through, but if he loses than my hate for Pavlik just increases.

**Tmann400** · 12-05-2009, 02:38 PM

williams had 5 or 6 weeks to prepare for martinez..thats enough time in my opinion.

**2501** · 12-05-2009, 02:40 PM

williams's trainer said that wasnt a problem

**Khmelnytsky** · 12-05-2009, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by Zarco

both took the fight on short notice, williams had a little over a month to adjust to new opponent, martinez had a little over a month to adjust to new opponent. no excuses whatsoever.

Yeah but Williams was already in shape and expecting to fight at 160.

Martinez haden't been training for a fight though correct? So him going from nothing to a 5 week camp needing to get in shape, in a division above, is different from PW changing an opponent.

lol TS already making excuses, i though your belief in your great leader was stronger than that.

**2501** · 12-05-2009, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by 2501

williams's trainer said that wasnt a problem

quoted for emphasis.

**P.WILL** · 12-06-2009, 01:57 PM

sudden change to slick southpaw wasnt good

Pavlik at fault if Williams loses...