Andre Ward relying heavily on BALCO founder.

[MidnightSpecial]

I agree with you,anyone who takes supplements knows these things work.They help in your actual performance and also recovery.This means you can train longer and everyday without feeling tired.It's even better in the fights because you'l be in top of your game.As long as they havent banned the substance then it's ok.

exactly. i play rugby in college and i use a supplement stack to minimize recovery time. it consists of creatine, arginine, vitamins, protein, branched chain amino acids(bcaa), and fish oil(natures body cure). when i run out of any of this stuff im down for about twice as long as normal. It has elevated my athletic ability 10 fold and my doctor agrees that i have never been healthier.

Supplements are not cheating. Its really no different from having a perfect diet. Supplements just make it easier to get the things your body needs.

that being said there are still alot of **** out there that shouldnt be on the shelves.

NEVER TAKE GNC AMP MUSCLE IGNITER!!!!!!!!!!! I took two doses and got SEVERE chest pains and thought i was about to have a heart attack. come to find out it ha 400 MG'S of CAFFEINE in a SINGLE DOSE!!!!! the only and last time i will ever take a pre-workout supplement.

[BattlingNelson]

Ward defeated kessler d/t PEDs? is this what ur alluding? the only way that he could beat him is with the help of blood doping or steroids or both?

in ur honest opinion, tell us the real reason kessler got thouroughly broken? please. dnt hide behind a speculative. tell us what u really think, fell, believe.

Kessler had his ass handed to him that night. No excuses.

[BattlingNelson]

He's just pissed that after trying to defend Kessler on this board from "WHO HAS KESSLER FOUGHT AND BEA" threads for years, Kessler was exposed as not having fought or beat anyone.

I'm still laughing at any Euro-bloc hating on Ward. It's like the pot calling the Kessler black. Fu.cking nerve of some on here. Take the ass whipping at face value for what it was, or don't. Either way, Ward moves on. And us Yank's should be up 2-1 in this "Super Six" ****. True story.

Preposterous. You guys are saying that I have another agenda? Look I posted an american newspaper article. Shame on all the fat yanks who didn't do it since it's more than 2 days old.

[BattlingNelson]

I don't know if Ward used any illegal substance, but if he didn't, why in hell did he get involved with Conte? Is Conte so much better than any other doctor so it's worth the doubts it creates?

Not saying that Ward did use steroids, but anyone with half a brain should stay away from Conte.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^The truth!

[BattlingNelson]

I like how this part wasn't bolded:


The main dude of the Anti-Doping Agency says what Ward is taking is legal.

No. He's saying that an altitude simulator is legal. No way he whitewashes any supplement coming from Conte.

[BattlingNelson]

So is anyone going to post a link or am I going to have to call BS on this one. You copy and paste that first paragraph of the article on Google and you get this thread as the 1st result. The article also cannot be found on the LA Time site

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-victor-conte4-2009dec04,0,657682.story

[BattlingNelson]

You didn't look hard enough.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...0,657682.story

Thank you.

[BattlingNelson]

Hahaha I don't like ward but u n battling Nelson sound like little girls. Nelson stop botching kessler lost n that's that. I was upset to I like kessler n not ward . But shut up n take d lost. U mad?

It has nothing to do with Kessler. I would have posted that article regardless of which fighters that where involved. A boxer associated with the biggest crook in sports the last 25 years is big news or at least it should be.

[BattlingNelson]

It's not like Bat, despite being Danish and a Kessler fan, just threw these accusations out of nowhere. Ward's association with Victor Conte does raise some legit questions that shouldn't just be brushed off as the talk of a bitter fan who is upset his favorite fighter lost.

I'm not sure if you ever read the thread but there was a huge commotion when a fake article came up about Pacquiao being associated with a very suspect trainer. This is basically the same thing, except it's real.

^^^^ The loudest voice of reason on NSB.

[billionaire]

thats not good ward should stay away from him something bad is bound to happen....zma is legal