MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO: No Weight, No Location, No Purse Split, "NO FIGHT"?

[S A M U R A I]

Do you see where the problem lies? What we know about Pacquiao is that his last fight against a true welterweight was at 145 pounds, Freddie Roach has said that a fight with Mayweather would have to take place at 145 pounds -- and we know that Floyd ain't fighting at 145 pounds.

That's garbage, for starters, because Roach already made it clear he wants it at 147. He's gone on video saying it.



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[jrosales13]

I hope they don't pull out. I haven't looked foward to a fight like this since Delahaoya-Trinidad.

Who is they?

[PensionKiller]

Joseph Roche

This is the direct quote concerning the "announcement" from GMANews.tv which is a Filipino news source that tends to get their Manny Pacquiao news correct.

"Pacquiao said he agreed for the March 13 mega-fight with Mayweather and instructed Arum to iron out all details in order for both boxers to finally seal the deal. Arum will still negotiate the details of the contract, like the weight where they will be fighting and the purse split, with Golden Boy’s Richard Schaeffer, whom Mayweather has tapped to deal with the camp of the seven-division world champion."

Did you catch that?

According to the source that was actually present when Manny made the "announcement" the only minor details that need to be ironed out are weight, location and purse split.

For those of you who don't know much about boxing let me explain something -- other then weight, location and purse split the only thing that I imagine could have been agreed upon is that March 13th is a date in 2010 when there could be a fight, and both Pacquiao and Mayweather are boxers who could fight one another.

Perhaps that's too simplistic. Let me break it down this way -- Arum and Richard Schaeffer met a week after Pacquiao's victory over Miguel Cotto. Thus the groundwork was laid between Bob Arum and Floyd Mayweather's camp before it was presented to Manny Pacquiao. Everyone and their mother knows that Mayweather will not fight at a 145 pound catchweight, so a bout between the two MUST take place at the 147 pound welterweight limit. I believe that everyone also agrees there is no chance that Floyd Jr. accepts a 60/40 (or even 55/45) purse split.

Do you see where the problem lies? What we know about Pacquiao is that his last fight against a true welterweight was at 145 pounds, Freddie Roach has said that a fight with Mayweather would have to take place at 145 pounds -- and we know that Floyd ain't fighting at 145 pounds. We also know that there is simply no chance that Pacquiao - who did better PPV numbers then Mayweather in their respective last times out will take a smaller percentage of the purse split then Junior receives.

Which tends to show that if Bob Arum left a meeting with Pacquiao without ironing out the weight, and the purse split -- then there is ABSOLUTELY NO DEAL YET! Did I stress that enough? Arum knows exactly what Mayweather wants, because he's already met with Mayweather's people. If Pacquiao didn't agree to weight, that means that there is no agreement for the fight at 147 -- the ONLY weight that Floyd Jr. would fight Pacquiao at -- are you starting to see the problem with the whole "agreement" yet?

It's also clear that there is no agreement on the purse split, which you have to assume was presented to Pacquiao as a 60/40 Mayweather split or a 50/50 direct split because nothing else would've come out of Floyd Jr.'s mouth. Which means if Pacquiao didn't agree to either of those numbers, and Floyd the stubborn man that he is would NEVER take less then Pacquiao in this fight -- folks we have a major hang up.

Look, I want to see Floyd Jr. and Manny Pacquiao fight in 2010 as much as the next guy and I do believe that it's going to happen. The fight is worth far to much money to far to many people to not get done. Pacquiao's senate run won't interfer because even he admits that campaigning won't begin until April (giving him plenty of time to fight in March), and regardless of what Freddie Roach says the March 13th date is still well in play because as long as Pacquiao can get into camp by the middle of next month he will be fine.

But saying purse split and weight haven't been decided are minor details is like saying that you've planned a trip to London that leaves in an hour and the only minor details you've overlooked are booking a flight and getting a hotel room. These are major issues that still need to be ironed out -- hell they are the MAJOREST (most major?) issues between the two fighters. I can't even begin to fathom how anyone thinks this fight is signed, sealed and delivered already just because Manny Pacquiao has agreed that if he fights on March 13th, Floyd Mayweather Jr. is an opponent he'd be willing to fight (and the feeling was reciprocated).

I have a very strong feeling that the fight will get made. I think that the two sides will now spend the next three weeks or so hammering out the details and we'll get a good deal made one way or another. The fight will take place at 147 pounds there is no doubt in my mind. Just taking how dominant Pacquiao was against Cotto as an example there is little argument to be made that Pacquiao can't just stay at the weight he fought Cotto and fight a true 147 pounder, and Floyd won't fight him at a catchweight there is just no chance of that happening. I'd also say the purse split goes 50/50 or 45/45 with the last 10 going to the winner of the bout, and Floyd will get top billing stateside, while Manny gets top international billing. I honestly don't see any ground giving way on either side from those stipulations but the key point is that NONE of that has been ironed out yet so before everyone puts a down payment on the PPV for March 13th lets see this thing play out first.

50k bet this fight happens on march 13th

[Horus]

horus, what up homie? Where were you on Monday when GYGB was on? Me and GG were chatting. I also just found out late today after the fact about your show. Why you didnt tell me? I wouldve listened

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[jrosales13]

Man I hope this fight happens man...

but Freddie Roach with his catchweight bull****, and more recently them asking for 60-40 when they know they would be lucky to get 50-50...
Is telling me that they willing to not fight Floyd....

What makes you think they want a catchweight? or them asking 60-40?

[Calilloyd]

Who is they?

I was referring to either team, really. I just hope there are no problems making this fight from either side.

[jrosales13]

I was referring to either team, really. I just hope there are no problems making this fight from either side.

I hope so too and I think it will. I think both teams wanted.

[syphillis]

Why so negative? Let's hope for the best that this fight gets made. We're becoming a bunch of whiny ass babies. Pac's last fight was just 3 weeks ago. And whatever happened to "I ain't waiting on Pac/Cotto winner"?

[Spray_resistant]

I guess they can sit around and not make any money at all if they can't come to an agreement......talk about smart business moves.

[PensionKiller]

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50k the fight is 147 and march 13th. deal?