Vitali KlitschkO

[hollister]

Lewis should have retired after beating Tyson. Look at how effective Ali was after 36. Joe Louis after 36.

Vitali had his chance at an older, inactive, not int top shape Lewis, and he couldn't cash in.

As for Byrd, Byrd was and still is available, but Vitali is (for some reason) fighting John Ruiz's leftovers.

Ali had Parkinson's disease, he was already slurring his words when he fought Spinks those two times. Louis came out of retirement, and didn't really train. Lewis, when in shape, was the most effective he had been in his career when he retired, and that showed in the Tyson fight and the Rahman II fight. He may not have trained properly, but the only difference was that he was in with a big strong man like him that he couldn't rough up by leaning his weight on his opponent and hitting him, and that man was hitting him back instead of letting him do what he wanted to. Sure, VK lost the fight and all, but don't try to compare the fighter he lost to with a 36 or 38 year old Ali, that's reaching.

[hollister]

The reason that Vitali is not considered a pound for pound top fighter is because if you shrunk him down to middleweight, he would get smacked down by b-hop. If Corry Spinks was physically the same as he is now, and just was a 250 pound version of himself, he would be able to destroy Vitali.

If, If, If...

If B-Hop weighed 250 lbs, he wouldn't be as fast, and he would have a punch. If VK weighed 160 and was 6 ft, he would be a lot faster and look a lot less clumbsy. If I was black, I wouldn't be white. VK's size get in the way of rating him objectively, but it's what makes him VK lol

[oldgringo]

what soem idiotic post. a 230 pound zoo or spinks would beat vitali. what a laugh. vitali fought byrd for 7 rounds with a torn rotator cuff, have any of u done that or even had one?

what round did he tear it...?

[Konstantin]

I read a couple dumb ass posts and have to comment: to whomever said that Byrd started doing better in the later rounds, hitting VK with some good body shots. DUH. VK could only use one hand. How could he not start hitting him with shots. Byrd didnt figure VK out, he was winning those rounds against a disabled dude...

[Bozo_no no]

I read a couple dumb ass posts and have to comment: to whomever said that Byrd started doing better in the later rounds, hitting VK with some good body shots. DUH. VK could only use one hand. How could he not start hitting him with shots. Byrd didnt figure VK out, he was winning those rounds against a disabled dude...

That was me, and Holyfield sustained a nearly identical injury vs. Byrd (in the 1st round), and finished the fight.

http://www.detnews.com/2002/morespor...orts-40158.htm

Its no coincidence Vitali injured his shoulder in with Byrd. Byrd took advantage and kept pressing, Vitali opted to give up his title rather than deal with the pain for 4 more rounds.

The context of that comment was that it was a legit loss Vitali.

[Bozo_no no]

Ali had Parkinson's disease, he was already slurring his words when he fought Spinks those two times. Louis came out of retirement, and didn't really train. Lewis, when in shape, was the most effective he had been in his career when he retired, and that showed in the Tyson fight and the Rahman II fight. He may not have trained properly, but the only difference was that he was in with a big strong man like him that he couldn't rough up by leaning his weight on his opponent and hitting him, and that man was hitting him back instead of letting him do what he wanted to. Sure, VK lost the fight and all, but don't try to compare the fighter he lost to with a 36 or 38 year old Ali, that's reaching.

Lewis beat a washed up Tyson in a fight where he was 36, and Tyson was 35. Lewis then took off a year and put on a bunch of weight, and came back to fight Vitali
when he 37.

He had been inactive, came in at his highest career weight (256.5), and was 37. That's far from a prime and conditioned Lennox Lewis.

[Stickman]

what round did he tear it...?

He tore it in the 4th, as I understand it.

[!! Mr. Soprano]

I read a couple dumb ass posts and have to comment: to whomever said that Byrd started doing better in the later rounds, hitting VK with some good body shots. DUH. VK could only use one hand. How could he not start hitting him with shots. Byrd didnt figure VK out, he was winning those rounds against a disabled dude...

Ohh noooo!

You got Bozo started again...

[adeelr]

its hard to say about vitali, there is no one he can fight to prove himself, he needed the lewis fight very badly, but lewis retired.

[AintGottaClue]

what round did he tear it...?

well if he fougth 7 rounds with a torn cuff and the fight lasted to the 9th, stopped before the 10th began, it would be the second round. some people say round 4 i hear round 2, either way fighting 5-7 sounds with that injury liek that isnt god. and hell if fighting with an injury makes u a ***** ass ***** and makes u quitali hell where do i sign up?