How good of a trainer is Roger Mayweather???

[NYU Alum.]

Man, I don't see too many fighters(boxers & MMA fighters) flocking to have Roger train them. WildCard gym is one bustling place. One moment you see PAC, and the next day you see Anderson Silva.

I mean, PAC's popularity has caught the eyes of not just casual fans, but even other professional fighters, everybody wants to be trained by Roach.

[DLT]

trainer? you mean pad man. He hasnt done jack outside of Afraid Mayweather jr. He's the same as jack mosley, roy sr. & enzo calzaghe. true test of a great trainer is training multiple fighters into title fights & into becoming great fighters. Not riding your nephew's talented coattails & fool people into thinking he's great.

His brother is another one. The steroid expert former ex convict drug dealer. He hasnt led or guided any fighters into prominence or championship tittle fights, but since he SPEAKS & YELLS to everybody that he's the greatest trainer of all time some poor saps actually believe it. Does that sound familiar? O yea his son, keeps on saying he's the greatest fighter of all time when his only bonafide true hall of famer on his resume is a old oscar & old career featherweight marquez.

It always amazes me how gullible people are. Great trainers have multiple fighters that become great & win world titles.

other trainers during the Crack Brothers times;

Nacho Beristain - rafa & juan marquez, Chiqiuto Gonzalez, daniel zaragoza, ricardo lopez the list goes on.

Freddie Roach - Pacquiao, Marlon Starling, Virgil Hill, micheal moorer the list goes on & now Amir Khan.

Emmanuel Steward - tommy hearns, wladimir klitckho, lennox lewis, the list goes on.

Floyd Senior - giving birth to Afraid jr. then going to jail for selling drugs, getting fired by chad dawson, & training joan guzman to NOT MAKE WEIGHT vs Nate Campbell.


Roger Slobber Tooth tiger - Afraid jr., cornelius lock, & melissa st. vale who he beats & tries to choke.

Floyd Sr. is such a great trainer that he trains hatton by working with him in the orthodox stance when ricky is about to fight the greatest southpaw since pernell whitaker.

How can people be so gullible?

that list you got is horrible. Most of those trainers got those guys when they were already big time. Thats the case for nearly every guy you named

[Mr. President]

bwhaahhhahah!

this dude is still here?

I thought he told us to mark his words!!!!

Who are you talking to? Speak to me directly when you address me you dork.

[MindBat]

well that's exactly what i'm saying. Chemistry is good between them but most times it seems like uncle roger is simply a workout buddy as opposed to a trainer to improve his fighter.

during pac/cotto 24/7 Michael Koncz made a statement saying he believed that Roach would not be considered anywhere near as good of a trainer if it wasnt for Pacquiao.

So i started asking myself the same thing about Roger Mayweather. How much credit does he deserve for Floyd's success?

Being that we're not insiders of Team Mayweather, we can only assume he's there for a very important reason.

Best way to really know is to interview Floyd about how good his uncle has been as his trainer. As far as we know, he's only had two trainers. His dad and his uncle. Maybe his uncle Jeff also played a part while Floyd was growing up.

I think some folks read too much into Roger's position because he seems nonchalant about his work, guessing he makes easy money training his nephew.

[Pullcounter]

Who are you talking to? Speak to me directly when you address me you dork.

bwhahahaahah!

he still wants us to mark his words!!!

[DonTaseMeBrah]

that list you got is horrible. Most of those trainers got those guys when they were already big time. Thats the case for nearly every guy you named

really? tommy hearns, lennox lewis, & wladimir were finished products before manny steward got to them?

ricardo lopez, humberto gonzalez & the marquez brothers were finished products before beristain got to them?

manny pacquiao was a finished product before roach got to him? amir khan, who trained him to get his first world title?

Those trainers i gave you cant argue. Go defend the 2 mayweathers & why they havent trained anybody else other than Afraid Mayweather jr. Refute my posts about them.

[Pullcounter]

Who are you talking to? Speak to me directly when you address me you dork.

bwhahahaahah!

he still wants us to mark his words!!!

[shadeyfizzle]

really? tommy hearns, lennox lewis, & wladimir were finished products before manny steward got to them?

ricardo lopez, humberto gonzalez & the marquez brothers were finished products before beristain got to them?

manny pacquiao was a finished product before roach got to him? amir khan, who trained him to get his first world title?

Those trainers i gave you cant argue. Go defend the 2 mayweathers & why they havent trained anybody else other than Afraid Mayweather jr. Refute my posts about them.

All were olympic medalists before Stewart and Roach got them. Floyd Sr was at least able to train his son from scratch since childhood. Roger Mayweather im not so sure about....and that's what we're discussing here.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

All were olympic medalists before Stewart and Roach got them. Floyd Sr was at least able to train his son from scratch since childhood. Roger Mayweather im not so sure about....and that's what we're discussing here.

are you serious? i cant believe i have to defend the merits & how emmanuel steward & freddie roach molded & shaped fighters. I really cant believe it. I guess being a hall of fame trainer is not enough. Senior never trained his son for any title fights. roger has only Afraid jr.

Every great trainer has at least a couple of signature fighters that they guided to title fights & to greatness. The fact that i have to defend 3 current hall of famers from posters like you & DLT is down right disgusting.

There's a reason why roger & senior are not in the hall of fame & have not won any awards for being trainers & why their resume of training fighters is zero except for Afraid jr.

[shadeyfizzle]

are you serious? i cant believe i have to defend the merits & how emmanuel steward & freddie roach molded & shaped fighters. I really cant believe it. I guess being a hall of fame trainer is not enough. Senior never trained his son for any title fights. roger has only Afraid jr.

Every great trainer has at least a couple of signature fighters that they guided to title fights & to greatness. The fact that i have to defend 3 current hall of famers from posters like you & DLT is down right disgusting.

There's a reason why roger & senior are not in the hall of fame & have not won any awards for being trainers & why their resume of training fighters is zero except for Afraid jr.

1st of all why dont you try reading my post right on the 1st page saying Nacho is the trainer i regard the most highly because he has trained 17 world champions from scratch. Meaning from the moment a child steps into the gym for the 1st time without any knowledge of fighting all the way until world championship fights.

Roach and Stewart have trained multiple world champions but they were already established before they ever got their hands on them.

Rigondeaux, Khan and Toney all already had olympic pedigree before Roach ever trained them. Even Manny Pacquiao was already a world champion before he ever met Freddie Roach.

And while I agree about Floyd Sr and Roger not having done much as far as trainers outside of Floyd jr. You have to at the very least give Sr credit for training his son from scratch since childhood. He would not have made it to the olympics without it.