Tavoris Cloud vs. Andre Ward

[Iceta]

Who would take it?

[Guest]

Ward ud.

Cloud has regressed since the Gonzales fight.

[Iceta]

Ward ud.

Cloud has regressed since the Gonzales fight.

I like Cloud's style a lot better than Ward's. But Ward I don't think would get hit as much against Woods. I don't know who would win a fight between Woods and Kessler to be honest. But I don't even think Woods is that much better than Kessler if at all. Cloud has the strength advantage over Ward I believe and definitely hits harder. A lot of people think Cloud is overrated, but I think he is actually underrated.

[Guest]

I like Cloud's style a lot better than Ward's. But Ward I don't think would get hit as much against Woods. I don't know who would win a fight between Woods and Kessler to be honest. But I don't even think Woods is that much better than Kessler if at all. Cloud has the strength advantage over Ward I believe and definitely hits harder. A lot of people think Cloud is overrated, but I think he is actually underrated.

I think Cloud was underrated but his inactivity caused him to be overrated when people were pissed he didn't get a title shot.

But he didn't fight anyone when he knew that was going to happen so I think he went from underrated to overrated.

He's good though. I don't think he has the kind of power his record indiciates to be honest and he gets hit with too much junk but he's a tough guy and he fights, so I give him props for that.

[SplitSecond]

ward would win, cloud has'nt impressed me, everyone in this forum loves to hype up punches(kirkland and cloud) but he seems like he can get outboxed easily by a top guy

[Iceta]

I think Cloud was underrated but his inactivity caused him to be overrated when people were pissed he didn't get a title shot.

But he didn't fight anyone when he knew that was going to happen so I think he went from underrated to overrated.

He's good though. I don't think he has the kind of power his record indiciates to be honest and he gets hit with too much junk but he's a tough guy and he fights, so I give him props for that.

Cloud may suffer the same fate of Kessler if he doesn't get his ass busy and fight. Inactivity can cause boxers to regress. I know people are using that as an excuse for Kessler losing to Ward. But it may have some truth to it.

[Guest]

Cloud may suffer the same fate of Kessler if he doesn't get his ass busy and fight. Inactivity can cause boxers to regress. I know people are using that as an excuse for Kessler losing to Ward. But it may have some truth to it.

Agree, not everyone, in fact, very few can do what Sugar Ray Leonard consistenly did, and that is fight his ass off after every long lay off.

[Iceta]

It would be interesting to know who would have the reach advantage in this fight. Cloud has better hand speed than Kessler does and would beat Kessler though regardless of who would win between Cloud and Ward.

[Hyde]

idk lol. but both of them would beat the living hell out of the fraud that is Joe Calzaghe.

[Iceta]

Let's leave Joe alone. Fights are only won on paper. Let's not go to the level of his delusional fan boys. We can't say that Ward or Cloud could beat Calzaghe until he fought them and vice versa. But the main thing is, he won't take the fights and is content on settling for a D level resume.