So is Calzaghe gonna give us some kind of explanation of why Kessler lost to Ward?

[Sick/]

I don't see how Beyer, Mundine and Andrade are better than Sheika, Reid and Vanderpool. I don't see it.

Reid was shot

[BattlingNelson]

I don't see how Beyer, Mundine and Andrade are better than Sheika, Reid and Vanderpool. I don't see it.

A shame...............

[Bad Boy Dazza]

God some of you Americans must be so ****ing insecure, desperate to drag Calzhage down. Kessler's recent loss doesn't prove jack ****. It's like saying that kid that beat Tyson in his last fight proves that Holyfield was a bumb.

[IMDAZED]

A shame...............

Sorry Bat. I'm just being honest. Anthony Mundine has done what, exactly? Beyer is the best name on that list and that says it all. Andrade? What had he accomplished prior to facing Kessler?

Again, is this is the best Kessler's got then...DAMN!

[BattlingNelson]

Sorry Bat. I'm just being honest. Anthony Mundine has done what, exactly? Beyer is the best name on that list and that says it all. Andrade? What had he accomplished prior to facing Kessler?

Again, is this is the best Kessler's got then...DAMN!

I don't understand how you can say that Lacy's resume can top that, but if you believe that be my guest.

[IMDAZED]

I don't understand how you can say that Lacy's resume can top that, but if you believe that be my guest.

Can you point out where I said that's my belief? What I'm saying is that not much separated the two prior to their meeting Calzaghe.

[daggum]

chad dawson already has a better career than calzaghe.

he's already fought 6 top 10 ranked guys. calzaghe only fought 8 his entire time at supermiddle and one was manfredo lol!

he's aleady beaten better fighters glen johnson twice(calzaghe ducked) tarver twice and tomas adamek. calzaghe beat kessler, lacy, and hopkins sort of.

he actually rematched johnson, a guy he had a controversial decision against unlike calzaghe who ducked reid and hopkins. pretending he "kicked hopkins arse" when he could barely hit him and got beat up most of the fight must endear him to his fans.

he's not ducking the best fighter in the division(hopkins) hopkins won't fight him. unlike calzaghe who was too scared to fight sven ottke for ten years.

when zsolt erdei turns 43 should dawson move up to cruiser and win a controversial split decision to seal his legacy?

[Walterson]

2001

1.Sven Ottke
2.Joe Calzaghe
3.Byron Mitchell
4.Antwun Echols
5.Charles Brewer
6.Thomas Tate
7.Eric Lucas
8.Mads Larsen
9.Manny Siaca
10.Markus Beyer

in 2002 it looks like this

1.Joe Calzaghe
2.Sven Ottke
3.Antwun Echols
4.Eric Lucas
5.Byron Mitchell
6.Charles Brewer
7.Mads Larsen
8.Manny Siaca
9.Anthony Mundine
10.Markus Beyer

in 2003 it looks like this

1.Joe Calzaghe
2.Sven Ottke
3.Anthony Mundine
4.Antwun Echols
5.Danny Green
6.Byron Mitchell
7.Markus Beyer
8.Charles Brewer
9.Mads Larsen
10.Robin Reid

in 2004 Kessler enters the list

1.Joe Calzaghe
2.Mikkel Kessler
3.Anthony Mundine
4.Antwun Echols
5.Danny Green
6.Jeff Lacy
7.Mads Larsen
8.Robin Reid
9.Markus Beyer
10.Manny Siaca

in 2005 it looked like this after beating mundine

1.Joe Calzaghe
2.Mikkel Kessler
3.Jeff Lacy
4.Markus Beyer
5.Anthony Mundine
6.Danny Green
7.Manny Siaca
8.Otis Grant
9.Robin Reid
10.Librado Andrade

in 2006 it looked like this, kessler fought beyer and andrade

Joe Calzaghe, Champion

1.Mikkel Kessler
2.Anthony Mundine
3.Jeff Lacy
4.Markus Beyer
5.Librado Andrade
6.Lucian Bute
7.Carl Froch
8.Allan Green
9.Denis Inkin
10.Peter Manfredo Jr.

Just looking at this list, how is it that Calzaghe never took on any of his near mandatories in 2002 / 2003?!

- Sven Ottke
- Antwun Echols
- Eric Lucas
- Anthony Mundine
- Danny Green

And instead opted to fight Tocker Pudwill / Byron Mitchell ...!

[Sick/]

2001

1.Sven Ottke
2.Joe Calzaghe
3.Byron Mitchell
4.Antwun Echols
5.Charles Brewer
6.Thomas Tate
7.Eric Lucas
8.Mads Larsen
9.Manny Siaca
10.Markus Beyer

in 2002 it looks like this

1.Joe Calzaghe
2.Sven Ottke
3.Antwun Echols
4.Eric Lucas
5.Byron Mitchell
6.Charles Brewer
7.Mads Larsen
8.Manny Siaca
9.Anthony Mundine
10.Markus Beyer

in 2003 it looks like this

1.Joe Calzaghe
2.Sven Ottke
3.Anthony Mundine
4.Antwun Echols
5.Danny Green
6.Byron Mitchell
7.Markus Beyer
8.Charles Brewer
9.Mads Larsen
10.Robin Reid

in 2004 Kessler enters the list

1.Joe Calzaghe
2.Mikkel Kessler
3.Anthony Mundine
4.Antwun Echols
5.Danny Green
6.Jeff Lacy
7.Mads Larsen
8.Robin Reid
9.Markus Beyer
10.Manny Siaca

in 2005 it looked like this after beating mundine

1.Joe Calzaghe
2.Mikkel Kessler
3.Jeff Lacy
4.Markus Beyer
5.Anthony Mundine
6.Danny Green
7.Manny Siaca
8.Otis Grant
9.Robin Reid
10.Librado Andrade

in 2006 it looked like this, kessler fought beyer and andrade

Joe Calzaghe, Champion

1.Mikkel Kessler
2.Anthony Mundine
3.Jeff Lacy
4.Markus Beyer
5.Librado Andrade
6.Lucian Bute
7.Carl Froch
8.Allan Green
9.Denis Inkin
10.Peter Manfredo Jr.

Just looking at this list, how is it that Calzaghe never took on any of his near mandatories in 2002 / 2003?!

- Sven Ottke
- Antwun Echols
- Eric Lucas
- Anthony Mundine
- Danny Green

And instead opted to fight Tocker Pudwill / Byron Mitchell ...!

Pudwill was a replacement you idiot

[BattlingNelson]

Can you point out where I said that's my belief? What I'm saying is that not much separated the two prior to their meeting Calzaghe.

You pretty much said so here:

How is that any different from beating Omar Sheika, Robin Reid and even Syd Vanderpool? Hell, one could argue that it's worse.