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So because I have Pac punching cotto in my picture means I don't like Cotto? I like both fighters. And I am being real. There are tons of champs, and hof'ers that have been Koed and still ended up being great. ****, from what I have heard Manny has been Koed twice in the past....
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OH GEEEZ!
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Cotto did neutralize Pac's hand speed. He was able to get the best out of it when they boxed and forced a fight similar to what he did with Zab Judah. Even better than he did to Mosley also.
However, Pac seems to have more power than those two and hurt Cotto in an exchange (which is what Cotto's team probably planned on forcing Pac into exchanges).
Just seemed that Pac could take Cotto's power much better than probably anyone expected.
Cotto's hand speed is highly under-rated. I just don't think he really recovered after that big knock down.Comment
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He had a different trainer. He lowblowed Judah several times.Comment
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Pac's speed came into effect later in the fight when Cotto was some what broken down and Pac was still relatively fresh. Which is what really surprised me. I thought Cotto would've taken more out of him with those early shots. Saw Pac's head snap back a few times.
Like I said before, Pac's speed didn't really wow me. His stamina, durability and power is what really impressed me.Comment
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There were two major factors that put this fight in Manny's favor. The first, Manny later admitted that the punches hurt, but that he needed to pretend they didn't in order to get into Cotto's head. Secondly, Manny's power pushed it over the edge into the downfall for Cotto. I've watched the first four rounds at least 3 or 4 times now, and aside from the second and the two knockdowns Cotto was doing a very good job when he was boxing. However, I didn't see it till after the Manny fight, but Cotto backs off if he feels his power doesn't affect you. Granted, this is only after the Marg fight but its there now and Roach/Manny did a great job exploiting it.
In the Clottey fight, when I saw Cotto backing off and trying to counter it may have been because of the eye and it was his best way at getting Clottey. And I still feel thats very true, however, I still feel it also has to do with Cotto backing off if he feels he can't hurt you. Sadly, Marg put this into his head IMO, and I'm not sure why Cotto went into this type of thinking. He's never had the power of a one punch KO which can change a fight like Manny does, instead he just wears you down slowly and breaks your will. If he had kept this up in the Manny fight, I feel he would have won.
But... Cotto just stopped doing this after the second knockdown. Granted it wasn't just the fact that he didn't feel he could hurt Manny, of which Manny did a great job of making it look like they weren't hurting, AND the fact that Cotto and his corner were far too confident in their power, and the lack of confidence in Manny's chin led to what happened, along side Manny's own power. Cotto had Manny trapped on the ropes and hit him with a solid right, instead of trying to box again or put on a more aggressive attack when Manny was trapped, he chased him with OVER aggression and threw a sloppy combo, got caught and hurt.
I still firmly believe that Cotto can beat Manny, if he had stuck to his game plan of boxing Manny, mixing up his counter/attack abilities and most of all, stayed mentally strong. But once that beautiful counter left uppercut by Manny landed it shot Cotto right back into the Marg fight. His corner didn't help matters either, both in training and during the fight by saying "we can do it, we can come back" after the knockdown. Also saying "All he has is a left." Terrible corner talk, they should have expected Manny to be stronger AND faster, as I'm sure they did with Mosley, and used a combination of Cotto's skills to win that fight. And when Cotto got hurt the last thing you need to say is "We can do it" you need to say, don't worry about it, just this time box more and don't force the attack if the ropes aren't close. Jab, to keep him from pressuring you, if the opportunity presents itself attempt to trap him and get some work done on the ropes. Instead the corner panicked and it threw any chance of Cotto winning out the window.
I hate typing this because its going to be viewed as me taking away from Manny's win, it isn't. He did what he was supposed to, to complete perfection. He made Cotto feel like he wasn't hurting him, he took advantage of Cotto's over aggression as I'm sure they were expecting, and most importantly, he didn't take his foot off the gas when he say he "had Cotto." That being said, I still think the fight was there for Cotto to take, but Manny did not only what he should have but exceeded what I thought he would/could to do a real WW.
BTW, if I didn't make any sense I'm drunk as hell and about to pass out, so try to decipher what I just put if it didn't make much sense.Comment
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Judah couldn't handle Cotto's power and precise shots. Judah was broken down rather quickly by hard shots, and then finished off when his speed was diminished. Pac on the other hand seemed to be able to walk through Cotto's power.
Mosley throws mostly short combinations and needs a lot of rest in between engages. That gave Cotto time to set and try to counter Mosley's speed. In contrast, when Pac pressed the engagements in round 3 and up, he caught Cotto with extraordinary power, because of constant pressure.Comment
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