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  • PAKYO
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    #31
    Originally posted by Motofan
    Roach was around before Pac and lost himself as a fighter. Then he began training and many of his fighters lost. He isnt great just because one of his fighters is. He is nothing special.
    Yes he isn't but he just happened to make his predictions with Pac's fight true.

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    • Motofan
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      #32
      Originally posted by PAKYO
      Yes he isn't but he just happened to make his predictions with Pac's fight true.
      Well he called Oscar because he worked with Oscar and knew he couldnt pull the trigger. And everyone picked Pac to beat Hatton easily. Most of us also picked Pac to beat Cotto like he did. So nothing special that I can see besides smart match making. Where were his predictions for JMM 1 and 2? Or for Morales? He predicted 3 fights that should have been easy for him to predict. Whoopty ****in doo.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Motofan
        Well he called Oscar because he worked with Oscar and knew he couldnt pull the trigger. And everyone picked Pac to beat Hatton easily. Most of us also picked Pac to beat Cotto like he did. So nothing special that I can see besides smart match making. Where were his predictions for JMM 1 and 2? Or for Morales? He predicted 3 fights that should have been easy for him to predict. Whoopty ****in doo.
        That was the time Pac was weight drained so Roach better thought of it making predictions.

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        • araindon
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          #34
          Originally posted by Silky-Flow
          Exactly Jiddu, Roach claims he's gonna "watch every Mayweather fight he can" to come up with a plan so clearly he's not confident in the last "plan" he devised against Floyd, like you say i think they'll try and pressure Floyd, he'll tell Pac to try and get Floyd on the ropes, throw quick combos and then get out of range, the problem is Manny will have to take a chance coming in and more often than not he'll be meeting a lovely counter for his efforts!! , especially when Pac hasn't even got a decent jab in his arsenal.
          Mayweather Snr said that Manny's best punch is his jab......when he was training Hatton he stressed how he is not worried about Pac's speed, but his jab.

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          • wXh.
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            #35
            Originally posted by mathed
            Floyd bends over a lot to avoid punches, the uppercut should be utilized as well as pressure and feints to get him to commit to a shoulder roll thing....then stick him where he is exposed.
            "Floyd bends over a lot"

            *reported for gayism

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            • punchdrunk7
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              #36
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              roach has no idea. money fights in many ways not just shoulder roll. watch judah fight (peek a boo), watch marquez fight (distance), watch hatton fight (UP close), watch chavez or ndou fight (slugger), watch gatti fight ( pure boxer), watch corley fight (attacked him), watch G. hernandez fight (speed), and most of all mayweather will out think roach and pacquiao. Manny fights one way (attack mode). He can not fight going back. Thats why floyd says he is one dimensional. I like manny alot but this fight is very difficult to win. Oh and people floyd has a great chin (never been down in 40 fights). You dont win 40 fights without getting rocked. He was rocked plenty of times in his career but never down. This guy sparred with heavyweights growing up.(fact) so to think manny will knock him out is just wishful thinking people. mayweather by Ud.

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                #37
                Originally posted by DontHitMyNuts
                I honestly believe roger or anyone on the mayweather camp can outwit nor beat roach in formulating the best gameplan. Currently, he is the man suited for that job (being w/ DLH) and he now has the perfect fighter to execute the strategy. I think what it comes down to is breaking pac PBF's shoulders - defense down and force floyd into an exchange. Floyd's jabs aint gonna do **** when pac can walk through it and burst him with flurries in exchange. The key is complete pressure with proper footwork to put him position for his flurries
                Mayweathers defence is the best, notice the way that neither Margarito or Mosely could get close to hitting him.

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                • Deja_Vous
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Silky-Flow
                  You mean like when Roach "the joke coach" had a "plan" when Oscar fought Floyd? , he failed then and he'll fail again.
                  Freddy guaranteed a KO...LOL

                  Seems like the Fanny Pac fans have forgotten Freddy trained Oscar in the Mayweather fight.

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                  • Deja_Vous
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Motofan
                    Well he called Oscar because he worked with Oscar and knew he couldnt pull the trigger. And everyone picked Pac to beat Hatton easily. Most of us also picked Pac to beat Cotto like he did. So nothing special that I can see besides smart match making. Where were his predictions for JMM 1 and 2? Or for Morales? He predicted 3 fights that should have been easy for him to predict. Whoopty ****in doo.
                    You make some very good points.

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                    • dans
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by DontHitMyNuts
                      I honestly believe roger or anyone on the mayweather camp can outwit nor beat roach in formulating the best gameplan. Currently, he is the man suited for that job (being w/ DLH) and he now has the perfect fighter to execute the strategy. I think what it comes down to is breaking pac PBF's shoulders - defense down and force floyd into an exchange. Floyd's jabs aint gonna do **** when pac can walk through it and burst him with flurries in exchange. The key is complete pressure with proper footwork to put him position for his flurries
                      Wow. Going out on a limb there. Considering Mayweather's camp doesn't even talk strategy or game plan, yeah I guess you're right.

                      Floyd doesn't even use his jab.

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