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  • DLT
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    Alright, Now Set The Game Plans!!!

    It dont matter if you are a die hard Floyd fan & Pac hater or vice versa. Set the game plan for "both" guys and be real about it. Lets not make no clown thread saying "run run run" or whatever. If you seriously mean that because you think he has to stay on his bike due to Pac's pressure then fine but dont just say it just to say it.
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    Mayweather can't do what he did against Judah; which was allow Judah to win the first few rounds untill he can adapt. Pacquiao can also adapt and isn't gonna run out of stamina. Mayweather will have to win the early rounds while adapting. He would also have to increase his punch output by 5-6 more punches per round.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
      Mayweather can't do what he did against Judah; which was allow Judah to win the first few rounds untill he can adapt. Pacquiao can also adapt and isn't gonna run out of stamina. Mayweather will have to win the early rounds while adapting. He would also have to increase his punch output by 5-6 more punches per round.
      You really think that? I mean, I definatly respect Pac's greatness but I think when Floyd adjust against anyone then its over. We were listening to that boxing show last night and I loved it because it basicaly sounded like me talking. All of them felt that it would be close for the first 4 rounds or so and then Floyd is going to figure him out and shut him out the rest of the way. They feel that Floyd is going to take some time to adjust to Pac's Southpaw style, speed, and everything he does but he will figure it out in about 4 rounds and take him apart after that.

      Im not saying the fight will play out that way at all but I honestly feel that if the first 4 rounds did play out like Zab where Pac is up 3-1 and has landed some hard blows but nothing devestating, I think Floyd will shut him out the rest of the fight. Im actually only worried about the first 4 rounds because sometimes Floyd has gotten jittery early like he did against Hatton and I feel that Pac could catch him with something. If Floyd makes it through 4 without getting KO or badly hurt by a punch that leaves him in a near permanent daze, then I think Floyd will take him apart after that. All that is the worst case scenerio. If Floyd is calm and on his game early then he can make it a wipeout from the jump if you ask me

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        #4
        Originally posted by DLT
        You really think that? I mean, I definatly respect Pac's greatness but I think when Floyd adjust against anyone then its over. We were listening to that boxing show last night and I loved it because it basicaly sounded like me talking. All of them felt that it would be close for the first 4 rounds or so and then Floyd is going to figure him out and shut him out the rest of the way. They feel that Floyd is going to take some time to adjust to Pac's Southpaw style, speed, and everything he does but he will figure it out in about 4 rounds and take him apart after that.

        Im not saying the fight will play out that way at all but I honestly feel that if the first 4 rounds did play out like Zab where Pac is up 3-1 and has landed some hard blows but nothing devestating, I think Floyd will shut him out the rest of the fight. Im actually only worried about the first 4 rounds because sometimes Floyd has gotten jittery early like he did against Hatton and I feel that Pac could catch him with something. If Floyd makes it through 4 without getting KO or badly hurt by a punch that leaves him in a near permanent daze, then I think Floyd will take him apart after that. All that is the worst case scenerio. If Floyd is calm and on his game early then he can make it a wipeout from the jump if you ask me
        All true but I wouldn't count on that. It's hard to prepare yourself for Pacquiao's punches because of all the angles. None of us seen Mayweather defend against such an opponent. I swear that the thought of Mayweather allowing Pacquiao to get some rounds in early is very risky.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
          All true but I wouldn't count on that. It's hard to prepare yourself for Pacquiao's punches because of all the angles. None of us seen Mayweather defend against such an opponent. I swear that the thought of Mayweather allowing Pacquiao to get some rounds in early is very risky.
          Im still 50/50 on the angles stuff. I honestly think his angles could be unstoppable but the other half of me thinks its not real. It just looks great against the guys who he has been fighting that are all way slower than him and have horrible D. I think against Floyd those same angles could look basic and more specificaly sloppy & off balance. Kinda like when people were sweating Naz about him punching from all angles and doing all these things but against a pro like MAB they looked sloppy, off balance, and amaturish. I beleive floyd can make Pac look like that in alot of ways but its hard to say

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            #6
            Originally posted by DLT
            Im still 50/50 on the angles stuff. I honestly think his angles could be unstoppable but the other half of me thinks its not real. It just looks great against the guys who he has been fighting that are all way slower than him and have horrible D. I think against Floyd those same angles could look basic and more specificaly sloppy & off balance. Kinda like when people were sweating Naz about him punching from all angles and doing all these things but against a pro like MAB they looked sloppy, off balance, and amaturish. I beleive floyd can make Pac look like that in alot of ways but its hard to say
            Seriously, I never thought of that. Thanks alot

            That angle stuff, Mayweather is gonna need to keep a distance to avoid that. Pacquiao has been turning his opponents alot, only allowing them to use one hand. That's why I strongly believe Mayweather will try and outbox Pacquiao. Listen to this guy,

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              mayweather's stragety now

              i have class soon, so ill post pac's strategy later

              1) feint- mayweather's boxing iq is so high because he watches his opponents very well. his eyes are patient and keen at noticing habbits and nuances. This is not necessarily for a counterpunching opp, but to get the rhythm to dance and dodge (i mean this in the most positive way, defensive styles are awesome imo) for the latter rounds. by feinting, he can provide his eyes with reactions of pac that don't necessarily need a punch thrown. he can't do this long though, pac will catch on at least by the end of round 2.

              2) Lead right- bread and butter for scoring the points, maybe even hurting pac. morales was pac's last opponent who is a master at this punch and he beat him convincingly the first time around. mayweather doesn't set up his right with a 1 partially because his opponents were exruciatingly slow compared to him (gatti, marquez, baldomir). although i think he's faster than pac the difference isn't as much and i do think he will have to mix the sole lead right with the 1-2. has to hit and run though, pac has heat.

              3) trap pac in a corner- this is going to be dangerous if he tries doing this without establishing the first two things. although his shoulder roll is the best of the business, so is pac's offense and money needs to get the timing and habbits of pac (by first feinting and second scoring) in order to pull this off. if may is successful at defending pac's punches in a corner, pac's chances to land will be diminished that much more. i see this in combination with the lead right landing as points in the bank for money's success.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Obdeboondocks
                i have class soon, so ill post pac's strategy later

                1) feint- mayweather's boxing iq is so high because he watches his opponents very well. his eyes are patient and keen at noticing habbits and nuances. This is not necessarily for a counterpunching opp, but to get the rhythm to dance and dodge (i mean this in the most positive way, defensive styles are awesome imo) for the latter rounds. by feinting, he can provide his eyes with reactions of pac that don't necessarily need a punch thrown. he can't do this long though, pac will catch on at least by the end of round 2.

                2) Lead right- bread and butter for scoring the points, maybe even hurting pac. morales was pac's last opponent who is a master at this punch and he beat him convincingly the first time around. mayweather doesn't set up his right with a 1 partially because his opponents were exruciatingly slow compared to him (gatti, marquez, baldomir). although i think he's faster than pac the difference isn't as much and i do think he will have to mix the sole lead right with the 1-2. has to hit and run though, pac has heat.

                3) trap pac in a corner- this is going to be dangerous if he tries doing this without establishing the first two things. although his shoulder roll is the best of the business, so is pac's offense and money needs to get the timing and habbits of pac (by first feinting and second scoring) in order to pull this off. if may is successful at defending pac's punches in a corner, pac's chances to land will be diminished that much more. i see this in combination with the lead right landing as points in the bank for money's success.
                mistake on #3, I meant "set up a trap for pac to fall for in a corner"

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                  U both know I'm a heavy floyd critic,but I'ma be unbiased here!!floyd is gonna do what he always does,which is box & move laterally!!But with Pacman,he is gonna have to get some respect,which means he's gonna have to stand & fight sometimes!!He is also gonna have to let his hands go,I know floyd has good defense,but Pacman has good offense,this fight is gonna be between the best defensive fighter against the best offensive fighter south of 160!!

                  Pacman is gonna actually throw more punches than normal,yup I said that!!floyd is gonna show Pacman more angles than he's ever seen before,Pacman is gonna have to understand that an adjust!!! thing that favors Pacman is that his offense doesn't have any particular rythm,so in that sense floyd is going to have a handfull because u can't time Pacman!!

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                    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                    Seriously, I never thought of that. Thanks alot

                    That angle stuff, Mayweather is gonna need to keep a distance to avoid that. Pacquiao has been turning his opponents alot, only allowing them to use one hand. That's why I strongly believe Mayweather will try and outbox Pacquiao. Listen to this guy,

                    Yeah, at 1st I was saying that Floyd would try to come at him and walk him down like he did all the other Southpaws but I dont feel that way now. If you watched Pac's last 4 fights since he moved up in weight, all those guys were bigger and tried to walk him down. Honestly, Pac looked better as a counter puncher than he did as the stalker. He was killing them when they were coming at him but when he tries to chase them then he still lunges alot, overextends, and losing his balance. I now think Floyd will try to fight him like JMM did except with more jab, and maybe a half foot more space since Floyd has that reach. That way he stays out of range easier and Pac has to overextend alot. Then I see Floyd countering him and making him pay. Later on I see Floyd maybe switching after he has taking something out of Pac and being more on the attack. I dont ever see Floyd going on the complete run in this fight though. I think he will basicaly be toe to toe like JMM but circling backwards, staying tall, and using his length, skill & D to punish him. Should be fun though

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