Still-Hungry John Ruiz is Back For Another Bite

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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Still-Hungry John Ruiz is Back For Another Bite

    By Lyle Fitzsimmons - Save a chair, folks. John Ruiz is sidling back to the heavyweight title table.

    Already a veteran of 10 championship bouts and one of history's select few with multiple bites of the division's fractured pie – the "Quiet Man" will meet his verbal converse when he shares a ring with newly minted WBA belt- holder David Haye sometime between now and mid-2010.

    Date and site logistics are unclear, but a contract is in place for the fight to occur before the end of May, according to Ruiz's manager Anthony Cardinale.

    "The fight with Haye was negotiated and closed before the bouts (in Germany)," Cardinale said. "It is a done deal. Otherwise we would not have agreed to step aside. There will be no further negotiations necessary."

    Haye earned his first title as a heavyweight with a majority decision over Nikolai Valuev on Nov. 7 in Nuremberg, where Ruiz toppled European journeyman Adnan Serin in seven rounds on the undercard.

    As the WBA's official challenger, Ruiz had been in line for a third match with Valuev, but agreed to defer to Haye in exchange for first dibs if the brash Londoner dethroned the towering 7-footer. [details]
  • Sicario
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    #2
    MAN, I cant wait! Ruiz is the most entertaining boxer ever!

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    • buster007
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      ruiz is full of bulls**it.

      if u were valuev's mandatory u wouldn't need to step aside to enable valuev to fight haye on the promise to fight the winner.

      u would fight valuev and assume u were talented enough to beat him ( otherwise why fight at all ) and then fight haye yourself and have ownership of the title to bargain for a bigger slice of the pie than if haye was the champ.

      it makes no sense at all.

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      • edgarg
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        #4
        Originally posted by buster007
        ruiz is full of bulls**it.

        if u were valuev's mandatory u wouldn't need to step aside to enable valuev to fight haye on the promise to fight the winner.

        u would fight valuev and assume u were talented enough to beat him ( otherwise why fight at all ) and then fight haye yourself and have ownership of the title to bargain for a bigger slice of the pie than if haye was the champ.

        it makes no sense at all.
        NO, Ruiz did the right thing. He had already lost 2 questionable decisions to Valuev, and if a third one was anyway close, he;'d lose that too. Soooo he got paid a hefty indemnity, and took a keep busy fight on the same programme, and, luckily, Haye won.

        So, as he probably hoped, he doesn't have to fight a 7 ft, giant, who has 2 wins against him.

        Ruiz is one of the most under-estimated heavyweights around.

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          Originally posted by edgarg
          NO, Ruiz did the right thing. He had already lost 2 questionable decisions to Valuev, and if a third one was anyway close, he;'d lose that too. Soooo he got paid a hefty indemnity, and took a keep busy fight on the same programme, and, luckily, Haye won.

          So, as he probably hoped, he doesn't have to fight a 7 ft, giant, who has 2 wins against him.

          Ruiz is one of the most under-estimated heavyweights around.

          I agree, edgarg. I am always defending Ruiz to the consternation of many posters who hate him.

          I dislike his style at times as much as anyone, but he has that sneaky right hand and manages to do what he can to stay in most fights and make them close.

          His resume and skills are fine, and underrated as well.

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          • MANGLER
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            Why don't the WBA just make Ruiz the WBA Permanent champion and give him a belt? Dude never stops gettin shots.

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              Originally posted by edgarg
              NO, Ruiz did the right thing. He had already lost 2 questionable decisions to Valuev, and if a third one was anyway close, he;'d lose that too. Soooo he got paid a hefty indemnity, and took a keep busy fight on the same programme, and, luckily, Haye won.

              So, as he probably hoped, he doesn't have to fight a 7 ft, giant, who has 2 wins against him.

              Ruiz is one of the most under-estimated heavyweights around.
              Originally posted by mangler
              Why don't the WBA just make Ruiz the WBA Permanent champion and give him a belt? Dude never stops gettin shots.
              The thing is mang, the WBA ranking are awful. I mean you got a pretty sorry top 10 there.

              Maybe give Solis or somebody who hasn't had a shot at least once because most of the top 10 got shots like Ruiz and lost in worse fashion.

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              • buster007
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                i don't agree.

                as talented as ruiz may be, i think he has much less chance against haye than against valuev.

                i mean if he had fought and beat valuev he wouldn't even have to fight haye anyway. he could fumble his way around and pick the fighters he thought he had more chance against. just like valuev did for as long as he did.

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                • josenoway
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                  sigh.

                  .................

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                  • HattonFaithful
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mangler
                    Why don't the WBA just make Ruiz the WBA Permanent champion and give him a belt? Dude never stops gettin shots.
                    lol i was thinkin the same thing man he's only held the WBA title and has lost it twice after holding it...then after losing to holyfield the first time (while it was close) he got an imediate rematch lol i got haye by late KO or UD

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