W. KlitschkO Fight Predictions

[hollister]

Wow, can't believe someone actually thinks Castillo has a shot lol

[Moon]

Munn .... I don't get it. You say that Castillo is a soft opponent, and then you say that he will KO Wlad. You make no sense at all.

Keep me out of it. I said no such thing. I wrapped-up by saying that we'll see what happens once Vlad takes a flush shot. He'll either start falling apart or keep it together, nothing simpler than that.

[Dark Destroyer]

Wlad fighting again?????

God help the boxing world PLEASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEE

[Bozo_no no]

Funny you feel that way, because you were the factor that probably played the biggest part in it taking place. You're one of those idiots that pride themselves in their ability to spin arguments around and feel like they made the other person look or feel ******, whether they are right or wrong. I was just ****ing with you yesterday because I knew you would continue to respond, and so far it's held true. It's true I got pissed about the KD thing, because I knew it didn't mean ****, but after that, I gave up on argueing logic with any hater like you, especially after I started looking at your spelling. But now I'm ready to redeem myself and showcase my ability to debate through logic and facts, even if you continue on the way you have, others will see my points and agree or debate them. Before you even start, I don't care to see your ****** smart alleck comments, you answer my questions directly and I'll answer yours.

You had no point at all.

You're like a gold fish, because your memory resets itself everytime you post.

I corrected you on a point you were wrong on. That made you very angry, and caused you to make a ton accusations about what I was implying with the simple straight forward things I said.

When I started to point out that you couldn't support anything you were saying, you stared to lie.

After you got called on that, you started to deny it happned.

Everything both of us said is still posted.

I showed you where you made an ass of yourself.

All you've continued to do is say that I made hateful comments, but are unable to show me where, or what I said to make you believe that.

As I've said over and over, one of the weakest displays of desperation and trying to save face I've ever seen.

I will continue to point this out everytime you try and A) deny it or B) try to change the subject.

You were humiliated when you had to resort to lying and pretending not to know what you said.

It was sad really.

[Bozo_no no]

Now, Explain to me why the **** VK needs to fight those two so much, he's not the undisputed champ, but he's the recognized champ.

Recognized by who? He LOST to Chris Byrd, and Byrd has been defending his title for nearly two years longer. Both Ruiz and Byrd have faced better opposition than Klitschko since his LOSS to Lewis.

All 3 of them have claim to being "the" champion, and nothing will get solved until they face eachother.

Vitali has stated several times that he wants to unify the titles, and wants to be undisputed. IMO fighting Rahman is only going to prolong that.

As I've said nearly THREE times now, he's going to have to work with King at some point if he wants the IBF/WBA. Having King
ending up co promoting his fights if and when he wins isn't a bad thing in any way. He's going to bring more moeny to the table for Vitali.

Chris Byrd is full of ****, he has challenged both of the Klits and when Wlad tried to fight him, he wiggled out of it.

He didn't wiggle out of anyting. He didn't want to go to Germany to fight a guy that at the moment HAS NO BUSINESS FIGHTING FOR A TITLE. Getting knocked out by two virtually UNRANKED fighters twice in your last 5 fights doens't put you in the drivers seat for a title shot. NO WAY did Wlad deserve that shot at this point.


None of us can say why Vitali ended up fighting Rahman instead of Byrd or Ruiz, but the fact is, Vitali isn't going to accomplish his goal of unufying until he does fight them, and either way he's going to end up dealing with King.

When Vitali signs on with King, I'll be the first to give you a big "I told you so".


I didn't say at any point that he won't beat Byrd or Ruiz. But the fact reamins, the Heavyweight division will suffer until the titles get unified.

Rahman hasn't beaten a live opponent since his win over Lewis, and that was years ago. He is John Ruiz's left overs, and before Ruiz beat him convincingly, Rahman just about got upset by Al COLE.

Does Rahman have a chance? Yes, but not a very good one. I just hope that after Vitali beats him, he will immediatly look to unify.

[Bozo_no no]

Having said all that, I will once again point out that you only wanted to switch the scope of the conversation that way because you humiliated yourself accusing me of "hating" Wlad, despite not being able to back that up in the least, and added injury to insult with your lies, denial, and subject twisting.

[hollister]

You had no point at all.

You're like a gold fish, because your memory resets itself everytime you post.

I corrected you on a point you were wrong on. That made you very angry, and caused you to make a ton accusations about what I was implying with the simple straight forward things I said.

When I started to point out that you couldn't support anything you were saying, you stared to lie.

After you got called on that, you started to deny it happned.

Everything both of us said is still posted.

I showed you where you made an ass of yourself.

All you've continued to do is say that I made hateful comments, but are unable to show me where, or what I said to make you believe that.

As I've said over and over, one of the weakest displays of desperation and trying to save face I've ever seen.

I will continue to point this out everytime you try and A) deny it or B) try to change the subject.

You were humiliated when you had to resort to lying and pretending not to know what you said.

It was sad really.

No, you're ****ing sad because you can't move on. I've said countless times that I was wrong about the knee, but not the significance of the KD. What you showed was a limited number of outrageous post I made just to **** with you, you still haven't explained why you jumped on Sac's **** when he posted that ****. I've never denied saying anything I said, I own up to my ****, if I said it, then **** it, I said it. You made hateful implications by curiously jumping on me when my post was directed at him. So, even after I've said I was wrong about the knee, and attempted to seriously debate you, you continue to hang on to the last bit of ammunition I gave you. Pathetic. but since you still want to talk about that, how much bearing did the KD have on the way the fight played out? How many rounds could one honestly say TOS won in that fight, seriously? I'm not denying anything, and I'm on the subject that got us where we are, so are you going to continue to be a broken ****ing record and claim that I'm somehow running from my own posts, or are you going to move foreward with this?

[Bozo_no no]

That sounds like you're trying to convince yourself, and not me.

[hollister]

Recognized by who? He LOST to Chris Byrd, and Byrd has been defending his title for nearly two years longer. Both Ruiz and Byrd have faced better opposition than Klitschko since his LOSS to Lewis.

All 3 of them have claim to being "the" champion, and nothing will get solved until they face eachother.

Vitali has stated several times that he wants to unify the titles, and wants to be undisputed. IMO fighting Rahman is only going to prolong that.

As I've said nearly THREE times now, he's going to have to work with King at some point if he wants the IBF/WBA. Having King
ending up co promoting his fights if and when he wins isn't a bad thing in any way. He's going to bring more moeny to the table for Vitali.




He didn't wiggle out of anyting. He didn't want to go to Germany to fight a guy that at the moment HAS NO BUSINESS FIGHTING FOR A TITLE. Getting knocked out by two virtually UNRANKED fighters twice in your last 5 fights doens't put you in the drivers seat for a title shot. NO WAY did Wlad deserve that shot at this point.


None of us can say why Vitali ended up fighting Rahman instead of Byrd or Ruiz, but the fact is, Vitali isn't going to accomplish his goal of unufying until he does fight them, and either way he's going to end up dealing with King.

When Vitali signs on with King, I'll be the first to give you a big "I told you so".


I didn't say at any point that he won't beat Byrd or Ruiz. But the fact reamins, the Heavyweight division will suffer until the titles get unified.

Rahman hasn't beaten a live opponent since his win over Lewis, and that was years ago. He is John Ruiz's left overs, and before Ruiz beat him convincingly, Rahman just about got upset by Al COLE.

Does Rahman have a chance? Yes, but not a very good one. I just hope that after Vitali beats him, he will immediatly look to unify.

You're ****ing insane. Yeah, he lost to Byrd, but no one with any active brain cells would pick Byrd to beat him again, since he was losing the first fight by a landslide, I'll say this again, Byrd's only hope of beating VK is VK's shoulder getting hurt sometime during the fight. This moron has actually said he's going to KO VK, he can't be serious. If Byrd talks **** about KOing the Klits (Wlad included), and then refuses to fight him, he wiggled, deal with it. He's been defending it with the aid of gift decisions, there's no way VK wouldn't have KO'd Quendo, and the Golota fight could have gone either way. Recognized by who? I dunno, ask anyone you like, and they'll tell you who the champ is (Ring Magazine). You can say what you want about his opposition, but one fact remains; all his defenses are by KO, no paid refs, no paid judges, just heads bouncing off the canvas, the most convincing way to win a fight.
And maybe having King around isn't a bad thing, but if he doesn't want King controlling his finances or career, then he shouldn't have to Sign with the devil just to dispatch two pretenders. Those two are ****ing jokes, that's why they aren't recognized as the champ.

[Bozo_no no]

but since you still want to talk about that, how much bearing did the KD have on the way the fight played out? How many rounds could one honestly say TOS won in that fight, seriously?

The knockdown had very little bearing on the fight. I corrected you because you were inferring it wasn't caused by a punch. Williamson timed him, caught him cold with a good shot. Wlad wasn't hurt, but he went down from the punch to a knee, which is knockdown.

That fight was a write off really. Williamson lost the 1st 3 rounds because he was reluctant to fight. But because he didn't really get to Williamson in the 3rd, it didn't help him to get clipped and go down like that, even if he wasn't hurt. You know when the ref started counting and the crowd went wild he was thinking it wasn't a good thing.

The 5th was an akward round for both fighters, and then Wlad got brutally cut (accidental) and it was stopped. He deserved the win, but I don't think the fight did anything for him in terms of getting some confidence and momentum back.

If he blows away Castillo like Moli, that will help. After that he should fight Michael Moorer. That would be a good fight for him and good win.