floyd deserves at least 60% heres why...

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  • jrosales13
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    #11
    Originally posted by FeFist
    The winner deserves 60% of the pie.

    The winner deserves 60% of the pie in every fight. I don't think the loser should ever get paid more than the loser of a fight to be honest.
    Not really cuz so much variables can happen during the fight.

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    • Deja_Vous
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      #12
      Originally posted by SirAuron
      It wouldn't hurt floyd for once to just go "**** it, lets get on with the fighting, ill take 45 to your 55"

      I'd give him HUGE props for that.
      It wouldn't hurt Manny either...let him say that ****** ass ****.

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      • FeFist
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        #13
        Not really cuz so much variables can happen during the fight.
        And? In a competition the loser shouldn't get paid more than the winner.

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        • Larrysbird
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          #14
          If both parties felt they aren't getting a fair deal, then they should move on and fight somebody else. Their next PPV outcome might help them realize who's the bigger draw. For now imo they're tie.

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            #15
            Originally posted by FeFist
            And? In a competition the loser shouldn't get paid more than the winner.
            It just so much variables. Like if there is a robbery you know what I am saying. The dude that rightfully won not only losses a fight cuz of a bull**** decision but also doesn't get the money that he should of gotten. Or for example take the Judah-Mayweather fight for example. After 4 rounds I think Zab was winning. Now imagine if in that fight that fight would of ended right after the 4th round cuz of cuz caused by a headbutt. I am just saying it is a good idea but the not you can't really do it cuz of so much variables that go on bro.

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            • versatech
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              #16
              I'd say 50/50 or 40/40 +20 for the KO/TKO winner.That would make the fight more exciting.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Larrysbird
                If both parties felt they aren't getting a fair deal, then they should move on and fight somebody else. Their next PPV outcome might help them realize who's the bigger draw. For now imo they're tie.

                You know what? I was thinking the same thing.

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                • S A M U R A I
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by billionaire
                  manny is a proven ppv seller hes been on since 2005.....however he didnt start doing over 500k+ since floyd retired......and he hasnt even done floyd numbers...manny can fight marquez, mosley, etc and not do as many buys as floyd would and everyone knows this....

                  biggest point eva to shut **** down: everyone is interested in seeing floyd lose! at most manny brings in 1 mil fans which is alot, but the majority of fans 1.5 at least buying will be paying to see floyd lose....everyone accepts that manny-mosley is the most exciting fight, manny-marquez have proven to put on classics, yet everyone wants to see manny-floyd even tho it has the chance of being a boring points decision....bottom line mayweather deserves 60% at least, maybe even 67%

                  i just sent this to richard shaffer, al haymon, leonard ellerbe
                  I hope you're joking when you said you sent it to those guys. You shouldn't have even sent it to a forum!

                  So, what exactly are "Floyd numbers"? They don't even exist. What you seem to be doing is hanging onto past figures, using the PPV sales that mainly Oscar made when he fought Mayweather. 2.4M. Would Floyd ever sell the same kind of amount again? Hell to the **** no.

                  Unless
                  it's with Pacquiao.

                  What you don't appear to be taking into account is Pacquiao's dramatic increase in popularity since he himself fought Oscar, and to a lesser extent, Hatton. Hence, Manny Pacquiao appears on prestigious magazine covers such as TIME because he's massivley famous right now. If Pacquiao fought Marquez today, he would also sell a million, which is what Mayweather-Marquez sold. Mayweather wouldn't do any better. In fact, I have a feeling Pacquiao-Marquez III might even do better than that.

                  Things have changed. Just because a band like Status Quo sold millions of albums in the 80's doesn't mean they'd sell the same amount today. So why would you book the same arena's they played back then? You wouldn't. They are not as popular now. It works the same way for a fighter. Floyd was probably at the height of his popularity when he fought Oscar, and we all know that Oscar is responsible for bringing massive popularity to both Mayweather and Pacquiao. "Floyd numbers" don't exist. He's done a brilliant job of making most people think he's bigger than he really is and can draw a much bigger audience than Pacquiao, but it's simply not true. I'd say Pacquiao has overtaken him, if anything.

                  Remember -- things change. That's exactly what's happened. Pacquiao's star rises higher every day and will continue to do so for a while.



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                    #19
                    Originally posted by versatech
                    I'd say 50/50 or 40/40 +20 for the KO/TKO winner.That would make the fight more exciting.
                    We've seen the exact same "idea" 400 times on this forum and elsewhere on the net, too It won't happen. People act like they have just found some wonderful solution to he problem, but this "idea" is played out. Does it make sense? Yes, but will it go down like that? Very doubtful.

                    Pacquiao would be ****** to accept anything less than 50%. Doing so would give Mayweather the first psychological advantage, as though Pacquiao was a guest at his house for dinner. Under absolutely no circumstances whatsoever should he accept less than 50%. Period.



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                      #20
                      Originally posted by S a m u r a i
                      We've seen the exact same "idea" 400 times on this forum and elsewhere on the net, too It won't happen. People act like they have just found some wonderful solution to he problem, but this "idea" is played out. Does it make sense? Yes, but will it go down like that? Very doubtful.

                      Pacquiao would be ****** to accept anything less than 50%. Doing so would give Mayweather the first psychological advantage, as though Pacquiao was a guest at his house for dinner. Under absolutely no circumstances whatsoever should he accept less than 50%. Period.
                      50/50 is the only way to go. Before the Cotto fight I would have said Floyd definately deserved more money but the Cotto fight proves that Manny is established as a superstar and therefore he deserves an equal split.

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