David Haye Breaks Down The Klitschko Brothers

[Corelone]

Haye is too small and he knows it. Yeah, he can out run a clumsy Valuev and he has a decent punch, but there are bigger and better heavy weights out there. He can analyze all he wants, but he knows that "he can't come all head" [Mavin Hagler], so he'll duck several guys including Arriola.

[jisi]

I think Haye can beat the younger brother...but as for the older one..?? i dont know ?

I see it the other way. Haye might beat Vitali but Haye will never beat Wlad.

[CiganoBoxer]

I see it the other way. Haye might beat Vitali but Haye will never beat Wlad.

really !? but Vitali has a better chin than Wlad...and the only way Haye wins is via ko...

[BillyBoxing]

You all keep talking about Haye being untested, and before Ward dominated Kessler that was the same excuse.Check the statistics,all great boxers have won their titles between their 19th and 25th fights and it was against proven opposition.

Check the boxers skills set then you will know how much of a chance Haye has against any.All the Klitchkos are vulnerable and have been hit before.Vitali was being nailed by Corry Sanders because Corry had speed and height but he was old and had been retired he couldnt keep the steam.Haye does not have the height but he has the speed and great boxing skills and power.Haye can move and the Klitschko's shots wont have any effect because they wont be landing clean.The Klitschko's are big but definitely not power punchers,they need a lot of rounds to grind their man to halt.The Klitschko's also wait for their man to come in so they can land the jab,they are not stalkers because when they move they become vulnerable and they know it.With such a rigid style how will they adjust to Haye's style.

Haye will get rid of this gabbage,he will send them into retirement and we will hear a lot of excuses.

"Haye will get rid of this gabbage,he will send them into retirement and we will hear a lot of excuses.[/"

The guy I saw against Valuev winning by MD??All the Klitchkos are vulnerable and have been hit before,and I don't think they are garbage,or if they are,what are Arreola and Travis Walker for god sake.

"All the Klitchkos are vulnerable and have been hit before"

As every fighters including the great Lennox(shout to Rahman),so is chinny Davidwho get dropped by Mormeck.

"The Klitschko's are big but definitely not power punchers,they need a lot of rounds to grind their man to halt"

Ray Austin or Kirk Johnson will disagree with you.


"Haye does not have the height but he has the speed and great boxing skills"

Haye had troubles to outbox Fragomeni,Mormeck until the KO,and even Valuev,great boxing skills??

The parallel with Ward is horrible.Ward is smart in the ring,crafty and can switch stances,Haye is one dimmensionnal compared to that former gold medalist(ain't nothing).

I think your comment was SHYTTE.

[norway]

Everyone knows he does not even belong in the heavyweight divison let alone beat the 2 best. His changes are that of a average guy on the street and almost amusing hearing people trying to make a case for him !!! Ha Ha Ha

[edgarg]

Haye c"breaks down".......

I think Haye sounds a little confused here. In the second paragraph (or sentence) he leads off by saying that both Klitschkos are about "the same".........then, in the very next paragraph (or sentence) he says they are different to the extent that he needs to train differently for each.

WELL..........we all know that already, that they are different and he needs to train differently for each.

So what's he up to? just poor, ill judged comments (very possible) or a schitzophrenic example (also very possible) ???

The end result of course, will be that instead of him "breaking down" the Klitschkos, they will "break him up"........... either or both of them.

So, basically, he's talking just BUMPFH....

[Pullcounter]

I think Haye sounds a little confused here. In the second paragraph (or sentence) he leads off by saying that both Klitschkos are about "the same".........then, in the very next paragraph (or sentence) he says they are different to the extent that he needs to train differently for each.

WELL..........we all know that already, that they are different and he needs to train differently for each.

So what's he up to? just poor, ill judged comments (very possible) or a schitzophrenic example (also very possible) ???

The end result of course, will be that instead of him "breaking down" the Klitschkos, they will "break him up"........... either or both of them.

So, basically, he's talking just BUMPFH....

it's simple, in some ways they are different (toughness) and in some ways there are the same (****s)

[edgarg]

You all keep talking about Haye being untested, and before Ward dominated Kessler that was the same excuse.Check the statistics,all great boxers have won their titles between their 19th and 25th fights and it was against proven opposition.

Check the boxers skills set then you will know how much of a chance Haye has against any.All the Klitchkos are vulnerable and have been hit before.Vitali was being nailed by Corry Sanders because Corry had speed and height but he was old and had been retired he couldnt keep the steam.Haye does not have the height but he has the speed and great boxing skills and power.Haye can move and the Klitschko's shots wont have any effect because they wont be landing clean.The Klitschko's are big but definitely not power punchers,they need a lot of rounds to grind their man to halt.The Klitschko's also wait for their man to come in so they can land the jab,they are not stalkers because when they move they become vulnerable and they know it.With such a rigid style how will they adjust to Haye's style.

Haye will get rid of this gabbage,he will send them into retirement and we will hear a lot of excuses.

You are wrong. Only recently have boxers won their titles at an early part of their career. his is because of the fact that there are now so many "titles", and also the financial planning of the fighter's promoter/manager/accountant etc.

In past days a fighter might have had to have anything from 50 fights to a lot more, before getting a title shot. There was only ONE title per weight division, not a half dozen, like today. And this doesn't count local, national or area titles.

You only need to look at Sugar Ray Robinson's record. From a very early stage in his career it was obvious that a champion was born, but it took him about 75 fights (1 loss) before he got a shot at a regional title, and over 80 fights before he got his shot at a World title.

We're talking here about arguably the best boxer of any weight, who ever lived. BEFORE he got his title shot, he'd beaten a baker's dozen of past world champions, including 6 fights with Jake LaMotta, of which he'd won 5.

There's no point in my searching for other examples. We can always find an anomaly, like , say, Jim Jefferies, who won his title early, and had only a very short total career.

Even a poor champion, like , say, Marciano, had over 40 fights before getting his "shot" at the title. And he was a mafia favourite too.

Sooooooo......... sue me if I'm wrong

[chinoy]

skillwise, Haye is comparable to both the Klits brothers but he is going up in weight and is not a natural HW....I would be very surprised to see Haye knocking out either one of the Klits

[edgarg]

You are wrong. Only recently have boxers won their titles at an early part of their career. his is because of the fact that there are now so many "titles", and also the financial planning of the fighter's promoter/manager/accountant etc.

In past days a fighter might have had to have anything from 50 fights to a lot more, before getting a title shot. There was only ONE title per weight division, not a half dozen, like today. And this doesn't count local, national or area titles.

You only need to look at Sugar Ray Robinson's record. From a very early stage in his career it was obvious that a champion was born, but it took him about 75 fights (1 loss) before he got a shot at a regional title, and over 80 fights before he got his shot at a World title.

We're talking here about arguably the best boxer of any weight, who ever lived. BEFORE he got his title shot, he'd beaten a baker's dozen of past world champions, including 6 fights with Jake LaMotta, of which he'd won 5.

There's no point in my searching for other examples. We can always find an anomaly, like , say, Jim Jefferies, who won his title early, and had only a very short total career.

Even a poor champion, like , say, Marciano, had over 40 fights before getting his "shot" at the title. And he was a mafia favourite too.

Sooooooo......... sue me if I'm wrong

You also have the wrong idea about the Klitschkos. They are VERY DEFINITELY power punchers, and, if they were the kind to deviate from their planned strategy and tactics, could, undoubtedly, render their opponents unconscious within a very few rounds.

No question about it.................