Tyson Vs Holyfield 3. Will it happen? Probably.

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  • joeboxer
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    Tyson Vs Holyfield 3. Will it happen? Probably.

    09.04.05 - By JE - Evander Holyfield is of late saying that he wants another crack at Mike Tyson. Tyson, to his credit, is saying that both he and Holyfield need to win a few fights before engaging each other again. But, will the bout ever happen? With only a few minor bumps in the road to overcome, my bet is that it will.

    Holyfield, 42, of course has the immediate obstacle of a suspension leveled by the New York commission and enforceable nation-wide. I think it is clear that the suspension won't hold --- it's based merely on the gut reaction of commissioner Ron Stevens. Although it is hard to disagree with the sentiment that Holyfield should pack it in, objectively it will be hard to sustain a suspension in light of the fact that he just fought 10-rounds against a ranked fighter and was not knocked out or even staggered during the contest. That fact, coupled with the considerable monetary resources Holyfield can put into lawyers, will make this suspension short-lived.

    Holyfield is 38-8, but is only 2-5-2 in his last nine fights. It is clear to most observers, the notable exception being Holyfield himself, that he is long past his prime. He was indeed a great fighter and has accomplished much. Undisputed cruiserweight and heavyweight championship belts adorned his palatial estate. He has also earned more money than any man who has entered a boxing ring.

    His desire for more heavyweight titles brings with it the need to keep fighting top fighters. The truth is he can no longer compete at the top 10 level. He can likely beat some lesser journeyman well into his 50's --- but why?

    Iron Mike, (50-5, 44 KOs), has himself experienced a devastating KO at the hands of then-champion Lennox Lewis, and a KO loss to Danny Williams in relatively recent history. Sandwiched in there was a quick win over Clifford Etienne that added little luster to Tyson's record. That makes him 1-2 in his last three fights with a lot of time between each bout.

    Tyson has been training in Phoenix and is poised to begin a comeback against a slew of journeymen, this time under the tuteledge of former champion, Australia's Jeff Fenech. This is likely the best, and potentially most lucrative, route for Mike. He's pushing 39, has fought infrequently, and has faced some big hitters. What made Tyson viable in the early part of his career was the confidence built from fighting often, mixing in top fighters with average opponents. There are plenty of heavyweights who won't be able to stand the early heat that Tyson can still bring.

    While it was obvious that Holyfield was the better fighter in each of his bouts with Tyson, he still had a vestige of his dwindling skills. (And yes, I think he was past his best when he met Tyson. I would have picked a prime Holyfield over a prime Tyson). Today, Evander's skills are gone. And, while he was an above average puncher, he usually won with a volume of punches delivered at angles and as counter-punches. He does not have a great punch on which to rely --- leaving him with not much in the way of offense. Defense? Lately his defense seems to be a sturdy chin and tremendous willpower --- it was not enough against James Toney and Toney is not a power-hitter by any stretch.

    For that reason alone, I would pick Tyson over Holyfield at this point in their boxing lives. Tyson despite the loss of the speed and head-movement that separated him from the pack, still has solid power and is willing to throw shots with abandon. I see a bout in which Holyfield comes right after Tyson as his did in their previous matches, but, unable to counter or finesse Tyson, gets clipped early and often. He may not make it out of the first round.

    I actually hope this fight never happens. While Tyson can go on to win some significant fights on power alone, Holyfield’s significant wins are all in his past. There’s no shame in being 42 and being finished as a fighter. He gave it his all, and at the top of his game his best was spectacular. Something tells me that he wants at least last hurrah.

    For more comments and articles by JE visit his site at http://www.jeboxing.blogspot.com or email him at jeboxing@yahoo.com
  • Bad Intentions
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    Tyson KO 3

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    • neils7147933
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      that would be a chore - finding a state that will give licenses to BOTH GUYS...

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      • Stickman
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        Geez, I don't even want to think about this matchup, much less watch it. Tyson probably has a little left in the tank, but Evander needs to just concentrate on his family, and making more money (without fighting for it). He's one of my all-time favorite fighters, and I don't ever want to see him in the ring again. It makes me sad even thinking about it.

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        • kapersky
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          where can i find info about how much each boxer earn in they carerer?. and this time i think tyson will win. they both shouldnt fight for 8-15 years ago

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          • buff_mike10
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            Tyson made over 300 million, i have no idea about Holyfield.

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            • dansweeney
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              at this point its a tyson tko in 1 after several unanswered punches, tyson will only lose to big punchers who can kayo him at this point, evander doesnt even throw punches anymore

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              • ryankivell
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                No Sanction

                There is no one in their right mind that would sanction this fight. Both fighters will be unable to obtain licenses. If anything, they COULD fight a Rocky V style street fight. Then we would all see just how big a wuss Holyfield is. The gloves have always been the one thing that stopped Tyson from knocking people out with one big one. TYSON, GO TO THE UFC.

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                • Derranged_
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                  Tyson vs Holyfield

                  I don't like the idea of this fight at all! First, this is a no-win situation for Holyfield. If he beats Tyson, so what he's already beat Tyson twice and Mike is not the fighter he used to be. If he loses to Tyson, which is more probable than in the last two outings with him(tyson)Holyfield could end up getting seriously hurt(brain damage). He would also tarnish his career record by losing to him.

                  For Tyson, can he really afford another loss against a non-top ten contender like Holyfield. If he wins, what has he proven? That he can beat up Muhammad Ali-esche(Last 2 fights in career) fighter like Holyfield?

                  The only good coming out of a fight card like this would be the payday for each fighter. We all don't want to see this fight happen but you know we all would buy the ppv!

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                  • masterdirector
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                    I'm all for this fight! Yeah! Go have it in Washington DC. They'll license Holyfield. No doubt. They don't even hardly read the bills they pass in their athletic commission. They just pass everything that comes by.

                    No joke, this happened on ESPN News one day when they were showing the Tyson license hearing...which was just crammed in with tons of other bills...

                    "...this next bill is a motion to allow a race in DC. All in favor say I. "

                    "I" "I" "I"

                    "...this bill is to license Michael J. Tyson to box in the DC. All in favor say I."

                    "I" "I" "I"

                    "...this bill is to legalize steroids in NASCAR in DC. Those in favor say I."

                    "I...oh wait, I mean those opposed say I"

                    "I" "I" "I"

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