It Doesnt Make Since To Fight Paul Williams!

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  • DLT
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    It Doesnt Make Since To Fight Paul Williams!

    I just dont get how fans & media can be so blind that they dont see this. I hate it so much when everyone tries to say that it means that they are scared of him. They arent. Its just a business. Its the same thing I said about Floyd. I beleive that Floyd wanted no part of the big WW's the 1st time around because he was only 146 in the ring and was worried if he could compete physicaly. Right now I think he feels that he can compete physicaly and will fight alot of those guys but it doesnt mean that he's going to fight them before JMM & Pac. Why would he do something dumb like that? Thats what fans & media dont get. Wake up people. Why would he risk a fight against a Mosley or Williams 1st when he can make a big pay day with JMM and then make the biggest fight ever with Pac?

    Mosley isnt scared of anyone. He would fight anyone, including Williams and I think he really wants that fight but do you think he is dumb enough to fight Williams right now for pennies with barely anyone watching when he could wait and fight the Pac-Mayweather winner for mega bucks and they are easier? Its not that he's scared of Williams, he's just not a fool. You fight Williams after all of that. Its the same for Pac. People are insane if they think that Floyd will duck these cats. IDK for sure about Williams but I have no doubt that he would fight a Mosley and a Clottey but not before JMM & Pac. Why would he make a dumb move like that? Its common sense.

    Williams has no one to blame but himself. He is the one that lost to Quintana. If he wins that fight then maybe things are alot different but he lost it. Now Pavlik shouldve definatly fought him. That win would give Williams more exposure and around that time, the guys at WW may fight him. I bet right now Clottey would fight him if he really wants to. Remember Clottey said NO because he didnt want to come up in weight but at WW I bet Clottey would take that fight. You guys hate to hear it but eveyone has to realize its a business. Sure, Floyd is going to fight Williams for scraps, maybe lose, and lose out on the super mega pay day with Pac who is probably an easier fight. Mosley is going to fight Williams right now and lose while he couldve waited a couple of months and made 5x as much money against guys with way bigger names and are at the top of the P4P list. Sure, Mosley is really going to take that fight? It would be dumb to.

    Williams just has to find a way to get one big win, probably against Pavlik and around that time the WW picture should clear up and he can get the fight. or ask Clottey for a fight at WW. I also dont see Williams rushing to do that because its the same thing. Sure he has no problem coming to WW for the mega fights but he wont risk coming to WW to fight Clottey because he will only make scraps and could lose before he got a shot at the big money. Its all the same thing but the media & fans act like they dont realize it. Its not about being scared, its about being smart
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    yes it does........after his blatant ducking of Cotto, marg, and shane.................

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    • Iceta
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      This thread is **** because if Mosley would've fought Paul Williams instead of Berto he wouldnt' be out of the discussion of a Pacquiao-Floyd fight because Williams offered to fight Mosley on the October 3rd date that Pavlik pulled out of. Just keep up with the excuses. Mosley is afraid of Paul Williams. But that's okay though, because everybody at 147 is.

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        #4
        Originally posted by strugler
        yes it does........after his blatant ducking of Cotto, marg, and shane.................
        I guess you didnt read this because Im not just talking about Floyd. Im talking about anyone

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          Originally posted by Iceta
          This thread is **** because if Mosley would've fought Paul Williams instead of Berto he wouldnt' be out of the discussion of a Pacquiao-Floyd fight because Williams offered to fight Mosley on the October 3rd date that Pavlik pulled out of. Just keep up with the excuses. Mosley is afraid of Paul Williams. But that's okay though, because everybody at 147 is.
          What does that mean? You are missing the whole point. Its not about the date fool. Its about the fact that he may lose. Why would he risk a fight with Williams who no one knows, isnt a top P4P guy, and the fight wont sell big when he could wait for the Pac-Floyd winner and make super money, against the #1 P4P guy, and be a big star because they are so known? You fight Williams after that, not before. Thats my point. Anyone knows that he couldve already fought him. The point is that you dont take that risk when you have a much bigger fight against a much easier opponent lined up. Its common sense wether people want to admit it or not

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            #6
            Originally posted by DLT
            I guess you didnt read this because Im not just talking about Floyd. Im talking about anyone
            PBF needs too.......shane and PAC gets a pass..............legacy wise

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              Originally posted by DLT
              What does that mean? You are missing the whole point. Its not about the date fool. Its about the fact that he may lose. Why would he risk a fight with Williams who no one knows, isnt a top P4P guy, and the fight wont sell big when he could wait for the Pac-Floyd winner and make super money, against the #1 P4P guy, and be a big star because they are so known? You fight Williams after that, not before. Thats my point. Anyone knows that he couldve already fought him. The point is that you dont take that risk when you have a much bigger fight against a much easier opponent lined up. Its common sense wether people want to admit it or not
              Did Mosley losing to Cotto keep him from fighting Margarito when Margarito was at the top? I think Mosley would still be in the discussion with those guys even if he lost to Paul Williams if the fight was competitive. But he knows that Williams is too young and athletic so he is gonna avoid him. And to my knowledge, Mosley is getting way less money to fight Berto than he would've got for Paul Williams.

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                Originally posted by Iceta
                Did Mosley losing to Cotto keep him from fighting Margarito when Margarito was at the top? I think Mosley would still be in the discussion with those guys even if he lost to Paul Williams if the fight was competitive. But he knows that Williams is too young and athletic so he is gonna avoid him. And to my knowledge, Mosley is getting way less money to fight Berto than he would've got for Paul Williams.
                Ofcourse he's getting less but he and no one else see's Berto as half the threat to him that Williams is, although I still think Berto could win. He has to fight somebody and Berto is the much lesser threat. All that stuff you said before was apples & oranges. Margarito was the #1 WW but he wasnt Pac or Floyd. He was the #1 P4P guy and selling over 1mil PPV's. Margarito did like 150,000 PPV's. Shoot, Margarito needed the fight just as much as Shane because Shane was probably even a bigger star than him. On top of that, you have to remember that most thought Shane was done or close to it and they thought Margarito would kill him. NO way he gets a Pac-Floyd fight if Williams beat Mosley. No one would want to see that and if he did get it then he would have to take like a 90/10 split. He would have no choice

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                  #9
                  Pwill ain't fightin at WW again anyways.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mangler
                    Pwill ain't fightin at WW again anyways.
                    He might not end up being able to make it but you are insane if you think he wouldnt try to for a major fight. He wouldnt even think twice about it. Besides, I think some of his weight stuff may be overrated. He can fight well at MW but he's still only like 165 in the ring at MW. People talk like hes 175 or something. He's a small guy at MW

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