Who ranks higher all time RJJ, Hopkins or Calzaghe?

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  • SkilledB
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    #41
    Originally posted by dde91
    He is not a NUMBER 2 LHW. just for beating LACY??? Bull****.
    diddnt calz get as much if not more praise for being lacy at 168? hmmmmm

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    • daggum
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      #42
      Originally posted by Hyde
      yep Calzaghe is no better than Sven Ottke.
      ottke had better defense and more power than calzaghe but calzaghe had better workrate(missing punches) would have been a cracker but joe wanted no part of the phantom.

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      • dde91
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        #43
        Originally posted by SkilledB
        diddnt calz get as much if not more praise for being lacy at 168? hmmmmm
        I mean Lacy isn't even a great fighter and the difference between when Calsappy and Roid Jones fighting Lacy is that Lacy had a belt when Cal fought him.

        and Tarver, Glen Johnson have wins over Jones, so why should he be ranked higher then them?

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          #44
          Originally posted by Hyde
          imo

          1. Roy Jones Jr
          2. Bernard Hopkins
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          3. Joe Calzaghe
          More like:

          1. Roy Jones Jr
          2. Roy Jones Jr (Southpaw)
          3. -
          4. Joe Calzaghe
          5. Bernard Hopkins

          RJJ would have smoked both of them in his prime. Smoked.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
            No, Calzaghe beat Hopkins. End of.

            Hopkins is also not actually that past prime. What a lot of people (idiots - such as yourself) don't realise is that Calzaghe was actually further removed from his prime. You could see Calzaghe's speed, work rate and endurance was not as good as during his prime years (around 30). Hopkins on the other hand, while past prime was actually not far removed from it at all - as proved by the Pavlik demolition.

            Hopkin's resume is garbage. He has about 2 good wins - against Tarver and Trinidad. The rest are just big names - they weren't good fighters where Hopkins fought them.
            At 44 Hopkins is past his prime. Not even arguable. The pavlik fighted showed that Hopkins was too skilled for Pavlik. Hopkins has also beaten Glen Johnson, Keith Holmes and William Joppy. All world champions and his size. And to say Trinidad was only a "welterweight" when he fought Hopkins is just downright ******. Trinidad walked right through and destroyed middleweight champ Williams Joppy and was killing himself just to make 154 previously.

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            • Lead Cenobite
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              #46
              Originally posted by Oasis_Lad
              Roy, though he is severely overrated. And Calzaghe and Hopkins are about even.
              True. Roy is american after all and not British. Therefore overrated. Good point.

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                #47
                Originally posted by daggum
                ottke had better defense and more power than calzaghe but calzaghe had better workrate(missing punches) would have been a cracker but joe wanted no part of the phantom.
                Joe shamelessly ducked the Phantom.

                And the Road Warrior.

                And Prime Jones.

                And Prime Toney.

                He was too busy giving fights to losers of title eliminators and mgr mrghghriutgrtourufoihfhghhghfchn and having wars with Veit.

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