Bernard Hopkins claims he "ruins" people?

[Aiwass]

How can you possibly "ruin" somebody when you throw 1 punch then hold, 1 punch then hold? thats called wrestling.

After Hatton and Ruiz, Hopkins is the biggest wreslter in boxing

[STILL_DETOX]

[gibo]

bernnie is joke.

[ИATAS]

you must be new to boxing, so let me tell you something you don't know - bernard hasn't always been 40+ years old, there was a time when he was younger & very offensive minded.

Ruin boxers? Maybe some. Pavlik has gone down hill hard since losing to bhop. Winky Wright went into hiding and fought once since losing to him. Trinidad retired from the game and when he finally came back was never the same. Oscar didn't fight for 2 years after losing to bernard. Antonio Tarver has never been close the same since bhop. And the list goes on and on in regards to his opponents during his reign at 160.

The only guys that weren't ruined were Roy Jones and Glen Johnson. You could make the case Calzaghe lost his balls after the hopkins fight because it was so difficult for him and so close, that maybe in his mind he knew he could lose and rather taking on a challenge he fought washed up roy jones and called it a career.

[MANGLER]

you must be new to boxing, so let me tell you something you don't know - bernard hasn't always been 40+ years old, there was a time when he was younger & very offensive minded.

Ruin boxers? Maybe some. Pavlik has gone down hill hard since losing to bhop. Winky Wright went into hiding and fought once since losing to him. Trinidad retired from the game and when he finally came back was never the same. Oscar didn't fight for 2 years after losing to bernard. Antonio Tarver has never been close the same since bhop. And the list goes on and on in regards to his opponents during his reign at 160.

The only guys that weren't ruined were Roy Jones and Glen Johnson. You could make the case Calzaghe lost his balls after the hopkins fight because it was so difficult for him and so close, that maybe in his mind he knew he could lose and rather taking on a challenge he fought washed up roy jones and called it a career.

This. Bhop rarely puts a serious beatin on opponents, but they still don't seem the same after fightin him. He takes guys confidence away. He don't ruin em physically.

[ИATAS]

He takes guys confidence away. He don't ruin em physically.

Yep, I agree. I mean even Jermain Taylor seemed like he lost his confidence after bhop, although one could say that's always been his problem, who knows.

Earlier in his career I know there were a couple guys bhop KO'd that never boxed again. Cant think of their names off the top of my head.

[Bhopreign]

How can you possibly "ruin" somebody when you throw 1 punch then hold, 1 punch then hold? thats called wrestling.

After Hatton and Ruiz, Hopkins is the biggest wreslter in boxing

2 Greg Paige Retired immediately after Hopkins
3 Keith Gray Fought once more 6 years after TKO from Hop
4 Eddie Tyler Fought twice more after TKO from Hopkins
5 Jouvin Mercado Fought on once more after TKO from Hop(Hop
took fight on 5 hours notice)
8 Darren Oliver Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
9 Mike Sapp Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
11 Steve Langley Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
12 Pedro Marquez Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
17 Dennis Milton Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
25 Roy Ritchie Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
30 Segundo Mercado Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
32 Joe Lipsey Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
37 Simon Brown Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
42 Antwun Echols Speech noticably different after second clash
44 Felix Trinidad Off and on fighter after encounter
48 Robert Allen Huge dropoff from competive first fight
51 Jermain Taylor Many think he isnt the same fighter since 1st clash
53 Antonio Tarver Says he was poisened for the fight
54 Winky Wright Hasnt fought since encounter
56 Kelly Pavlik Many are already saying there is no way Kelly will be the same fighter after his loss to Hopkins.

[Bretty Poy32]

2 Greg Paige Retired immediately after Hopkins
3 Keith Gray Fought once more 6 years after TKO from Hop
4 Eddie Tyler Fought twice more after TKO from Hopkins
5 Jouvin Mercado Fought on once more after TKO from Hop(Hop
took fight on 5 hours notice)
8 Darren Oliver Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
9 Mike Sapp Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
11 Steve Langley Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
12 Pedro Marquez Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
17 Dennis Milton Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
25 Roy Ritchie Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
30 Segundo Mercado Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
32 Joe Lipsey Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
37 Simon Brown Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
42 Antwun Echols Speech noticably different after second clash
44 Felix Trinidad Off and on fighter after encounter
48 Robert Allen Huge dropoff from competive first fight
51 Jermain Taylor Many think he isnt the same fighter since 1st clash
53 Antonio Tarver Says he was poisened for the fight
54 Winky Wright Hasnt fought since encounter
56 Kelly Pavlik Many are already saying there is no way Kelly will be the same fighter after his loss to Hopkins.2 Greg Paige Retired immediately after Hopkins
3 Keith Gray Fought once more 6 years after TKO from Hop
4 Eddie Tyler Fought twice more after TKO from Hopkins
5 Jouvin Mercado Fought on once more after TKO from Hop(Hop
took fight on 5 hours notice)
8 Darren Oliver Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
9 Mike Sapp Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
11 Steve Langley Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
12 Pedro Marquez Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
17 Dennis Milton Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
25 Roy Ritchie Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
30 Segundo Mercado Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
32 Joe Lipsey Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
37 Simon Brown Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
42 Antwun Echols Speech noticably different after second clash
44 Felix Trinidad Off and on fighter after encounter
48 Robert Allen Huge dropoff from competive first fight
51 Jermain Taylor Many think he isnt the same fighter since 1st clash
53 Antonio Tarver Says he was poisened for the fight
54 Winky Wright Hasnt fought since encounter
56 Kelly Pavlik Many are already saying there is no way Kelly will be the same fighter after his loss to Hopkins.2 Greg Paige Retired immediately after Hopkins
3 Keith Gray Fought once more 6 years after TKO from Hop
4 Eddie Tyler Fought twice more after TKO from Hopkins
5 Jouvin Mercado Fought on once more after TKO from Hop(Hop
took fight on 5 hours notice)
8 Darren Oliver Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
9 Mike Sapp Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
11 Steve Langley Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
12 Pedro Marquez Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
17 Dennis Milton Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
25 Roy Ritchie Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
30 Segundo Mercado Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
32 Joe Lipsey Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
37 Simon Brown Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
42 Antwun Echols Speech noticably different after second clash
44 Felix Trinidad Off and on fighter after encounter
48 Robert Allen Huge dropoff from competive first fight
51 Jermain Taylor Many think he isnt the same fighter since 1st clash
53 Antonio Tarver Says he was poisened for the fight
54 Winky Wright Hasnt fought since encounter
56 Kelly Pavlik Many are already saying there is no way Kelly will be the same fighter after his loss to Hopkins.2 Greg Paige Retired immediately after Hopkins
3 Keith Gray Fought once more 6 years after TKO from Hop
4 Eddie Tyler Fought twice more after TKO from Hopkins
5 Jouvin Mercado Fought on once more after TKO from Hop(Hop
took fight on 5 hours notice)
8 Darren Oliver Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
9 Mike Sapp Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
11 Steve Langley Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
12 Pedro Marquez Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
17 Dennis Milton Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
25 Roy Ritchie Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
30 Segundo Mercado Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
32 Joe Lipsey Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
37 Simon Brown Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
42 Antwun Echols Speech noticably different after second clash
44 Felix Trinidad Off and on fighter after encounter
48 Robert Allen Huge dropoff from competive first fight
51 Jermain Taylor Many think he isnt the same fighter since 1st clash
53 Antonio Tarver Says he was poisened for the fight
54 Winky Wright Hasnt fought since encounter
56 Kelly Pavlik Many are already saying there is no way Kelly will be the same fighter after his loss to Hopkins.2 Greg Paige Retired immediately after Hopkins
3 Keith Gray Fought once more 6 years after TKO from Hop
4 Eddie Tyler Fought twice more after TKO from Hopkins
5 Jouvin Mercado Fought on once more after TKO from Hop(Hop
took fight on 5 hours notice)
8 Darren Oliver Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
9 Mike Sapp Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
11 Steve Langley Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
12 Pedro Marquez Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
17 Dennis Milton Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
25 Roy Ritchie Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
30 Segundo Mercado Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
32 Joe Lipsey Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
37 Simon Brown Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
42 Antwun Echols Speech noticably different after second clash
44 Felix Trinidad Off and on fighter after encounter
48 Robert Allen Huge dropoff from competive first fight
51 Jermain Taylor Many think he isnt the same fighter since 1st clash
53 Antonio Tarver Says he was poisened for the fight
54 Winky Wright Hasnt fought since encounter
56 Kelly Pavlik Many are already saying there is no way Kelly will be the same fighter after his loss to Hopkins.

[Bretty Poy32]

2 Greg Paige Retired immediately after Hopkins
3 Keith Gray Fought once more 6 years after TKO from Hop
4 Eddie Tyler Fought twice more after TKO from Hopkins
5 Jouvin Mercado Fought on once more after TKO from Hop(Hop
took fight on 5 hours notice)
8 Darren Oliver Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
9 Mike Sapp Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
11 Steve Langley Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
12 Pedro Marquez Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
17 Dennis Milton Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
25 Roy Ritchie Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
30 Segundo Mercado Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
32 Joe Lipsey Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
37 Simon Brown Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
42 Antwun Echols Speech noticably different after second clash
44 Felix Trinidad Off and on fighter after encounter
48 Robert Allen Huge dropoff from competive first fight
51 Jermain Taylor Many think he isnt the same fighter since 1st clash
53 Antonio Tarver Says he was poisened for the fight
54 Winky Wright Hasnt fought since encounter
56 Kelly Pavlik Many are already saying there is no way Kelly will be the same fighter after his loss to Hopkins.2 Greg Paige Retired immediately after Hopkins
3 Keith Gray Fought once more 6 years after TKO from Hop
4 Eddie Tyler Fought twice more after TKO from Hopkins
5 Jouvin Mercado Fought on once more after TKO from Hop(Hop
took fight on 5 hours notice)
8 Darren Oliver Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
9 Mike Sapp Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
11 Steve Langley Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
12 Pedro Marquez Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
17 Dennis Milton Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
25 Roy Ritchie Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
30 Segundo Mercado Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
32 Joe Lipsey Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
37 Simon Brown Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
42 Antwun Echols Speech noticably different after second clash
44 Felix Trinidad Off and on fighter after encounter
48 Robert Allen Huge dropoff from competive first fight
51 Jermain Taylor Many think he isnt the same fighter since 1st clash
53 Antonio Tarver Says he was poisened for the fight
54 Winky Wright Hasnt fought since encounter
56 Kelly Pavlik Many are already saying there is no way Kelly will be the same fighter after his loss to Hopkins.2 Greg Paige Retired immediately after Hopkins
3 Keith Gray Fought once more 6 years after TKO from Hop
4 Eddie Tyler Fought twice more after TKO from Hopkins
5 Jouvin Mercado Fought on once more after TKO from Hop(Hop
took fight on 5 hours notice)
8 Darren Oliver Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
9 Mike Sapp Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
11 Steve Langley Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
12 Pedro Marquez Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
17 Dennis Milton Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
25 Roy Ritchie Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
30 Segundo Mercado Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
32 Joe Lipsey Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
37 Simon Brown Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
42 Antwun Echols Speech noticably different after second clash
44 Felix Trinidad Off and on fighter after encounter
48 Robert Allen Huge dropoff from competive first fight
51 Jermain Taylor Many think he isnt the same fighter since 1st clash
53 Antonio Tarver Says he was poisened for the fight
54 Winky Wright Hasnt fought since encounter
56 Kelly Pavlik Many are already saying there is no way Kelly will be the same fighter after his loss to Hopkins.2 Greg Paige Retired immediately after Hopkins
3 Keith Gray Fought once more 6 years after TKO from Hop
4 Eddie Tyler Fought twice more after TKO from Hopkins
5 Jouvin Mercado Fought on once more after TKO from Hop(Hop
took fight on 5 hours notice)
8 Darren Oliver Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
9 Mike Sapp Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
11 Steve Langley Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
12 Pedro Marquez Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
17 Dennis Milton Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
25 Roy Ritchie Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
30 Segundo Mercado Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
32 Joe Lipsey Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
37 Simon Brown Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
42 Antwun Echols Speech noticably different after second clash
44 Felix Trinidad Off and on fighter after encounter
48 Robert Allen Huge dropoff from competive first fight
51 Jermain Taylor Many think he isnt the same fighter since 1st clash
53 Antonio Tarver Says he was poisened for the fight
54 Winky Wright Hasnt fought since encounter
56 Kelly Pavlik Many are already saying there is no way Kelly will be the same fighter after his loss to Hopkins.2 Greg Paige Retired immediately after Hopkins
3 Keith Gray Fought once more 6 years after TKO from Hop
4 Eddie Tyler Fought twice more after TKO from Hopkins
5 Jouvin Mercado Fought on once more after TKO from Hop(Hop
took fight on 5 hours notice)
8 Darren Oliver Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
9 Mike Sapp Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
11 Steve Langley Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
12 Pedro Marquez Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
17 Dennis Milton Fought once more after TKO from Hopkins
25 Roy Ritchie Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
30 Segundo Mercado Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
32 Joe Lipsey Retired immediately after TKO from Hopkins
37 Simon Brown Never won another fight after TKO from Hopkins
42 Antwun Echols Speech noticably different after second clash
44 Felix Trinidad Off and on fighter after encounter
48 Robert Allen Huge dropoff from competive first fight
51 Jermain Taylor Many think he isnt the same fighter since 1st clash
53 Antonio Tarver Says he was poisened for the fight
54 Winky Wright Hasnt fought since encounter
56 Kelly Pavlik Many are already saying there is no way Kelly will be the same fighter after his loss to Hopkins...