Do the Americans own another division?

[MOTHER DUCKER]

Alot of those can be debated..

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Well, in the end, and I've said this plenty of times, it's still about the HW Champion as being the best overall so that goes to Vitali. HW Champion is King. Americans have ****e for HWs. compared to big V.

Kevin Johnson sparks Klit out! Can't even type that without laughing.

[Mikhnienko]

Cunningham-top crusier
Dawson-top lightweight
Ward-top super middleweight
Pavlik/Williams-top middleweight
Williams-top junior middleweight
Mayweather/Mosley-top welterweight
Bradly-top junior welterweight
Guerrero-top junior lightweight
Viloria-top light flyweight

Thats 9 of the 17 divisions that you could argue the top fighter is an American. Yet, Europeans think that they rule the sport.

CW - Adamek, Huck, Wlodarczyk, Drodz, Alekseev. Let's see how he does right now against these guys

Dawson - fighting 40 + yr olds riight. Lets see him against Erdie, Shumenov, Uzelkov, Pascal, Diaconu

Ward - lol right

MW- Golovkin Korobov N’Dam N’Jikam Pirog will be the top guys in the next year or two

147 and 140 are deep

All i'm pointing out is that to claim that they're the proven top fighters is absured.

Also, in the next 2 years things will get even more dreary for the divisions that american are 'best' in as you assert.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

Cunningham-top crusier
Dawson-top lightweight
Ward-top super middleweight
Pavlik/Williams-top middleweight
Williams-top junior middleweight
Mayweather/Mosley-top welterweight
Bradly-top junior welterweight
Guerrero-top junior lightweight
Viloria-top light flyweight

Thats 9 of the 17 divisions that you could argue the top fighter is an American. Yet, Europeans think that they rule the sport.

Cause Ademak moved up
Cause LHW is a bunch of ****e (Zaghe just retired)
Debatable again, Abraham is probably the best
Pacman is Top WW and JRW or Hatton is
Guerrero is American?

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CW - Adamek, Huck, Wlodarczyk, Drodz, Alekseev. Let's see how he does right now against these guys

Dawson - fighting 40 + yr olds riight. Lets see him against Erdie, Shumenov, Uzelkov, Pascal, Diaconu

Ward - lol right

MW- Golovkin Korobov N’Dam N’Jikam Pirog will be the top guys in the next year or two

147 and 140 are deep

All i'm pointing out is that to claim that they're the proven top fighters is absured.

Also, in the next 2 years things will get even more dreary for the divisions that american are 'best' in as you assert.

Like I said you can debate it. Point was American boxing is still very strong. Last month people were ****ting on it but if you look at it unbiased you will see Americans are still holding it down. Most of those guys you listed aren't really in the conversation though. Adamek is debatable but his days at cruiser are pretty much over.

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Cause Ademak moved up
Cause LHW is a bunch of ****e (Zaghe just retired)
Debatable again, Abraham is probably the best
Pacman is Top WW and JRW or Hatton is
Guerrero is American?

Retirement and moving up is part of the game. Yes, Guerrero was born in California so why wouldn't he be an American. As for Pac hes a welter so yes he is in debate with Mayweather. I also said you can debate Hatton with Bradley but at this point in Hattons career I would say Bradley is the man at that division. It's all opinion but the Americans are doing fine even if some posters would like to make you believe something else.

[Mikhnienko]

Like I said you can debate it. Point was American boxing is still very strong. Last month people were ****ting on it but if you look at it unbiased you will see Americans are still holding it down. Most of those guys you listed aren't really in the conversation though. Adamek is debatable but his days at cruiser are pretty much over.

lol Well i agree with you. They aren't in the conversation because you don't know who 75% of the fighters i listed are. And certainly haven't seen them fight.

Your media does a good job of keeping your fighters and your public to an even larger extent in a bubble.

[slimshandy69]

Yeah, I guess the hype from the tourney has gotten to me a little. I'm still a little bitter about the Dirrel fight. Either way America is doing a pretty good and I look forward to Kessler sparking Froch out. Super 6 is exciting imo even if the fights have yet to be truly legendary.

then why does this yank think you are talking ****??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxWNh7QjoKo

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lol Well i agree with you. They aren't in the conversation because you don't know who 75% of the fighters i listed are. And certainly haven't seen them fight.

Your media does a good job of keeping your fighters and your public to an even larger extent in a bubble.

I know who most of them are because I watch the stream. They aren't in the conversation because they haven't beat anyone yet. I've seen Huck fight and from what I remember(without cheating and looking at boxrec) he lost his first major step up fight, just can't recall who it was against. The other guys have not been tested yet to truly be considered the best. Cunningham was in with Adamek in a life and death battle. He deserves the spot since Tomaz has moved up.

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As for the other guys didn't the shark just lose, he really hasn't been tested. Erdei is never going to test himself against a guy like Cunningham so we will never know.