Does the US really have the best boxers or is it just due to money?

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  • leff
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    #11
    Originally posted by Anorak
    Me? Stirring it? Why, the very thought!

    But it seems that - if you remove the lighter weights that seem to be the province of Mexico - that boxing is something like 80-90% an American realm. I'm talking at an elite level, obviously.

    Now is this because Americans are just naturally better boxers or just because the US is where the money is? I don't even necessarily mean that the money is used for better training... for all we know there could be the two best heavyweights sitting in a log cabin in Switzerland, eating white chocolate and listening to ABBA. Don King and the WBC aren't going to spend 30 million dollars going over there to film them, are they?

    Don't forget - Limeyland is a lot smaller than the US. So proportionately there's more talent here.
    Its the money as kid achilles said, americans arent especially tough( of course some are), and thats because of the fact that its very good too live there.

    hard lives makes hard menn.

    The future lies in the former cccp, cuba and mexico just look at the amatures.

    and dont think that it aint a good indicator.

    boxing has been so big in the us cause it is rule by the us,and because the former cccp didnt have the chance to join.

    and by the way ABBA aint swiss its norwegian and swedish.

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    • Neuraxis
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      #12
      Originally posted by snap the jab
      I don't see how Americans could naturally be better boxers...

      I think the main reason that the u.s. dominates (although not for much longer, but more on that in a sec) is that the U.S. has three things, all in one country: tons of money, tons of poverty, and a high level of violence for a first-world country. So you get poor males looking for a way up who aren't intimidated by violence, since they've grown up with it all around them, and then rich people who buy tickets and PPV shows to see them and who run TV networks and pay out big purses etc. etc... and since things have been this way in this country for a long time we also benefit from alot of built-up training talent and gym infrastructure, as well as a solid base of fans.

      The pool of competitors is widening, however, as more and more fighters from Africa, Eastern Europe, South America, and Asia get into the mix. Countries in these regions will develop boxing traditions of their own, and will start producing more and more world-class fighters. Eventually boxing will become a truly international sport, no longer dominated by the United States. Bad news for American fighters, since the wider the pool of competition the harder it will be for them to get to the top - but really good news for boxing fans, since the guys who make it to the top of such a big, diverse pool of talent should be some freakishly good fighters.
      I agree with this. The U.S. dominated boxing in the past, but I don't know what's happening to it now. Though I think part of the appearance of the lessening U.S. dominance has to do with its horrible marketing/television exposure of its prospects. Because of this I would say that its dominance isn't lessening as much as it appears though it is clearly not as dominant as it once was.

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      • Tha Greatest
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        #13
        Originally posted by Neuraxis
        I agree with this. The U.S. dominated boxing in the past, but I don't know what's happening to it now. Though I think part of the appearance of the lessening U.S. dominance has to do with its horrible marketing/television exposure of its prospects. Because of this I would say that its dominance isn't lessening as much as it appears though it is clearly not as dominant as it once was.
        just wait 6-7 years u'll see a new champ

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        • Super_Lightweight
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          #14
          hmm

          America has the better fighters. There are several reasons.

          1) We are big.

          2) We have many different races and backgrounds and influences of people here.

          3) Boxing has a good history.

          By the way, there is no evidence to support that England has the better boxers even if you take into account the diference in population.

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          • Run
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            #15
            Originally posted by Super_Lightweight

            1) We are big.

            .
            That is another good point. We grow bigger than others do, in other parts of the world. The average Height and Weight of an American supercedes that of any other country. Maybe with the exception of China......being they have over half the world's population.

            Funny. You would not think there are more spanish speakers in China, than any where else on earth. LOL. Its true though.



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